How has the coronavirus affected your personal life?

[skjl47]

Hello; I am not an anti-vaxer. I do however see the potential for some unexpected reactions as these vaccines are indeed made by what I understand to be an entirely new method previously untried on masses of people. Good thing is there have been some trials so some evidence from those. The trials were by necessity perhaps shorter than normal, but hopefully have been enough so the vaccines will not have too many surprises.

To me the rush to have a vaccine depends on age and current medical issues. Were I young and healthy I would more likely wait a while figuring the odds for a more serious illness from the virus is small and the reactions from the vaccine are not yet fully known. At 73, as I am, the odds likely are tanking a vaccine will be a better outcome than having the disease.

For older folks like me ( well I guess this will work for any age group) the better plan may be to have an antibody test first to see if I have already had the virus. A positive antibody test means I have my immune system ready to deal with the virus if I happen to run across it again and getting a vaccine probably will not help that much. If I have a negative antibody test then I am very open to catching the virus and could become very ill so getting a vaccine seems the good plan. Not sure when or if I will have a chance to get a vaccine here in flyover country. I think there is some being given out in Knoxville TN about 50 to 60 miles away.

It is a shame in so many ways that so many aspects of this pandemic have been and continue to be colored by agendas. It is so hard to wade thru all the conflicting stories being pushed onto us. In addition too many times the ones we ought to be able to count on do seem to have taken a side which has little to do with the "science". For me it is somewhat like it was when I joined the fish forum here. Had I not been keeping fish already for decades the conflicting opinions I found here ten years ago would have confused me. I can see how a newby to the hobby might struggle.

I have come to rely on my own dated background as a biology teacher when it comes to the new virus as I did with my years of experience as a fish keeper when I found this forum. Of course this forum is changed as well. Hard to have an honest civil discussion anymore.

 

[duanes]

These SARs vaccines have been in testing ever since the Toronto outbreak in 2003, they have simply had to be modified to fit the current Covid strain ( one of the reasons they've been able to be rolled out so quickly).
We hear rumors that the vaccine may arrive in Panama in Feb.
So here in Panama, the government is doing a lockdown from Dec 18th thru the 4th of January in order to reduce the spread.
We are not allowed out of our yard during the holiday.
If this keeps me from spending New Years on a ventilator, I can live without a few parties this year.

 

[aaronhas]

this is a great thread, its cool to hear how other countries are handling it. I personally have been basically out of work since February. I think I've worked 86 hours mostly doing steam monitoring. its kinda nice to have free time to spend with the family but not having money sucks. I didn't qualify for unemployment due to taking time off right before the pandemic hit which feels pretty backwards. the job market in my area is also nonexistent I couldn't even find a job bagging groceries. luckily I have enough savings to survive off of but I really feel for the people not lucky enough to have money saved up right now.

our area was pretty much spared from the first few months of the virus but has been hit really hard recently. almost makes me glad i dont have a reason to go out in public lol

 

[skjl47]

Hello; I finally was able to get an antibody test today. Test was negative so I guess i have not had the covid19 virus. So I guess I will be getting a vaccine at some point.

 

[skjl47]

So I guess I will be getting a vaccine at some point.

Hello; Well it seems my place in the vaccine line is not yet clear. At 73 I sorta thought folks my age might be near the front of the line. but does not seem to be the case. Last I heard you have to be 75 or older but I am not sure those folks are getting the shots yet. I hope they are.
Medical staff and some first responders are getting them. Maybe people in nursing homes and their staff. This makes sense. I do not mind waiting until after these folks.

I heard that in one state the prison inmates will be vaccinated before vulnerable older non criminal folks. I can see how older and sicker prisoners ought to qualify. Not so sure how young and healthy prisoners should be in line before older and sicker regular law abiding folks who are sure to be at much more risk if they become infected.

Saw where some people in high places are having videos of getting the vaccine shots. For the old ones it seems justified. Not so sure about the young ones in their 30's jumping the line in front of older and sicker folks. But as with most things, nobody asked me about it.

I do not make too much of the new mutated strains of covid19 just yet. Such mutations are normal for an RNA virus is my take. If the vaccines work on the new strains then things will stay much the same.

 

[TwoHedWlf]

Looks like the schedule here is to start vaxing front line people second quarter 2021. And we're supplying some of the Pacific island countries with it.

So, still going to be a while. But we don't really have an immediate need, let all the disease ridden countries have it first.

 

[Supergeorge123]

I'd love to read on this, got any sources?

Unpacking the Long-Term Immune Response to COVID-19

New reports show COVID-19 reinfection is possible, but other data suggest many patients will likely be protected from reinfection for many months, or even years.

www.contagionlive.com

Apparently people who have recovered can still shed viral DNA for some time after rhe fact, up to 120 days is mentioned here. So even if you've had it and are likely resistant or immune, there is still good reason to wear a mask around other people.

Two more studies show contracting COVID-19 prevents against future infection for 6-8 months

People who are infected with coronavirus and survive are protected against reinfection for at least six months, two new studies have found. The studies, one from Oxford University and the other by …

www.nydailynews.com

Not just that, but Fauci just said yesterday that he was lying about the amount of people that would need to get vaccinated. So far most of these people have openly admitted to lying about all kinds of stuff since this started. Lying about masks, lying about schools, lying about vaccines. Why keep listening to people who keep lying to us over and over again?

 

[Supergeorge123]

I saw that folks with certain allergies are having bad reactions to the new vaccine in the UK. I knew some folks would.
Some will certainly prove less adverse to covid than the vaccine.

Multiple people have been hospitalized with allergic reactions to the vaccine so far, even people with no known allergies and with no allergens in the vaccine itself. This should be quite concerning in that in the trial all of the really terrible side effects came after the second dose. You should read about what happened with the swine flu vaccine in 1976. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/long-shadow-1976-swine-flu-vaccine-fiasco-180961994/

To put this whole thing in perspective, in 1968 a disease called the Hong Kong flu spread across the world and killed 4 million people at a time when the earth's population was 3.5 billion, the average was 21 and the obesity rate was 3%, yet this disease was considered so unremarkable at the time that almost nobody has even heard of it today.

 

[skjl47]

Two more studies show contracting COVID-19 prevents against future infection for 6-8 months

People who are infected with coronavirus and survive are protected against reinfection for at least six months, two new studies have found. The studies, one from Oxford University and the other by …

www.nydailynews.com

Not just that, but Fauci just said yesterday that he was lying about the amount of people that would need to get vaccinated. So far most of these people have openly admitted to lying about all kinds of stuff since this started. Lying about masks, lying about schools, lying about vaccines. Why keep listening to people who keep lying to us over and over again?

Hello; Very good question. I have some ideas that likely would not be acceptable here in the open forum with the restrictions.
Many years ago there was a book I believe called "The Peter Principle" or something similar. I do not recall all of the notions but one sort of has been coming to mind with regard to Fauci. It goes something like this. A person with some skills, smarts or other quality that makes them very good at particular things eventually gets promoted to a position where they no longer function as well as they did in the previous stage of a job or career. My recall may be off a lot about this but that is how I think it went. You might be the best welder on a crew but when promoted to supervisor of a welding crew, performance might be middlin.

 

[skjl47]

To put this whole thing in perspective, in 1968 a disease called the Hong Kong flu spread across the world and killed 4 million people at a time when the earth's population was 3.5 billion, the average was 21 and the obesity rate was 3%, yet this disease was considered so unremarkable at the time that almost nobody has even heard of it today.

Hello; Yes I recall that particular flu. Pretty sure I had it back then. It was a bad flu to have. I think I have had a bad flu at least four times. There was never shutdowns and all the current stuff that is going on now.

Heard a report a few days back which is still too early to be confirmed. Went along the lines of speculation that by the time a handle is gotten on the real number of infected compare to the deaths this covid19 may turn out to be about the same as bad flu years. The working theory being the covid 19 has been much more widespread than previously thought. Like I stated, still too early to know for sure. How ironic that would turn out to be if true. Think of all the businesses that are gone and the massive debt we will have to deal with in some form.