How has the coronavirus affected your personal life?

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Hello; Yes I recall that particular flu. Pretty sure I had it back then. It was a bad flu to have. I think I have had a bad flu at least four times. There was never shutdowns and all the current stuff that is going on now.

Heard a report a few days back which is still too early to be confirmed. Went along the lines of speculation that by the time a handle is gotten on the real number of infected compare to the deaths this covid19 may turn out to be about the same as bad flu years. The working theory being the covid 19 has been much more widespread than previously thought. Like I stated, still too early to know for sure. How ironic that would turn out to be if true. Think of all the businesses that are gone and the massive debt we will have to deal with in some form.

Once in a while we get these particularly nasty flus and they wipe out a lot of people. From a disruption point of view this current one has almost brought the world to its knees, and it's far from over yet

But little is said of the common flu. I haven't a clue what the statistics are but i'm wagering that the common flu, over the decades, has wiped out more people than all of these odd ball strains combined. And yet the common flu is allowed to go about its business without as much as a mention. But the annual accumulative global figures show that it is a real contender for top spot of killer flus.

Why is common flu treated as just a normal thing, we let it do its worse, and world economies stay intact. And yet with these other strains we go out of our way to put measures in place that have the potential to bankrupt the globe.

I'd like some top government officials, you know, those who have all the answers, to explain that one to me.
 
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Heard a report a few days back which is still too early to be confirmed. Went along the lines of speculation that by the time a handle is gotten on the real number of infected compare to the deaths this covid19 may turn out to be about the same as bad flu years. The working theory being the covid 19 has been much more widespread than previously thought. Like I stated, still too early to know for sure. How ironic that would turn out to be if true. Think of all the businesses that are gone and the massive debt we will have to deal with in some form.

Why is common flu treated as just a normal thing, we let it do its worse, and world economies stay intact. And yet with these other strains we go out of our way to put measures in place that have the potential to bankrupt the globe.

I'd like some top government officials, you know, those who have all the answers, to explain that one to me.

Guys, guys...the Propaganda Machine that runs the world by controlling what we think we "know" probably has a red flashing light and a siren wailing right about now. As soon as someone, somewhere, says the magic phrase "Now, just wait a minute here..." alarm bells go off and the Overlords take notice. They are aware that someone, somewhere is actually trying to think and this cannot be allowed.

We are at a critical juncture right now; never before have so many different and terrifying bogeymen been carefully crafted and simultaneously released to keep the population in a constant low-grade state of terror. We are apparently being steered towards being afraid of climate change, the coronavirus, pollution, war, gender inequality, famine, killer meteors, murder hornets, drunk drivers, the opioid crisis, solar flares, terrorism, obesity, bedbugs, GMO's, EMP's, steroids, pesticides, feral cats, cosmic radiation, Lyme disease, frozen airplane-toilet bombs, falling satellites, displaced Polar Bears, botflies, comatose baby seals, alien invasions, Godzilla, Sasquatch and termites...all at the same time!!! Juggling all these "dangers" so that none of them fall off the radar of the general population is a delicate task, requiring skilled manipulation of the media and public opinion...but our leaders are the best available, and they are up to the task.

No longer can the population of the world be allowed to run around willy-nilly, totally uncontrolled, like a bunch of free-range chickens. The era of the Human Factory Farm is upon us.

Soylent Green is made of BULLSHYT !!!!!!!

Oh, crap...bit the end of my tongue again, while it was stuck in my cheek...:nilly:

Oops, almost forgot: Merry Christmas to all...except, of course, those who would be offended by that sentiment...
 
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Not just that, but Fauci just said yesterday that he was lying about the amount of people that would need to get vaccinated. So far most of these people have openly admitted to lying about all kinds of stuff since this started. Lying about masks, lying about schools, lying about vaccines. Why keep listening to people who keep lying to us over and over again?

I am afraid we lionize doctors on TV, and it gives people strange ideas. Doctors will lie all the time to spare people from horrible truth of death and disease. They can get used to lying, and you will see this if you see enough doctors. EVERYONE tells white lies. They are intended as a mercy. I believe this of Fauci as well.

The media pays out miles of rope on speculation, and people get themselves caught in it, and so become "news". The media empires gave Fauci a huge "platform", because of his proximity to power, and because he is not politically powerful and unused to the attention, it went to his head badly. This has been seen with so many people who fall under the lure of fame and fortune.

The good doctor spoke too much, said things he shouldn't & now the media have those recordings in hand to embarrass him. They can now make him dance and sing on cue, and he repeatedly proves what a feckless puppet he is as they do this to him. Fauci is a very smart fellow, but his blind spots allowed him to be 'oist by 'is own petard.
 
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Happy Christmas to all!

Our kids and grandkids, and we, decided we were all healthy enough for Christmas, and all came for dinner yesterday.

I made a 9lb prime rib with mashed potatoes and carrots with onions. I bought lots of snacks and we had pie, cake, pudding, and 4 kinds of ice cream. Presents for everyone, & everything came off well. The roast was perfect, nothing burned, and we didn't cook too much or too little.

Not one kid showed up with a runny nose, sniffles, bandaids, broken finger, arm in a cast, black eye . . . nuthin'! . . . and nobody over ate or drank too much. There was not a single kiddie squabble, and nobody even mentioned politics, disease, or the election.

I was expecting the usual melee, but it was sort of a Christmas miracle.
 
It's a problem, since you can't weld in the wind. You are always in still air, if possible. Now if you're the fitter, prepper, setup man etc you'll be running around a lot, grinding off rust etc for the welders, so a totally different situation.

I never welded in a pro shop, but I engineered/supervised at a few. If you're doing anything like plated sheetmetal you'll want a respirator to avoid the fumes. Galvanized fumes will kill you 1000x faster than any virus.
When I applied I was under the assumption that I would be welding however I was mislead about what I would be doing. I am getting the metals ready for the welders mainly. I’ll cut it, bend it, put holes in it, move it around the building, etc, however no welding.



My mother’s sister has tested positive for covid, likely due to her attending church, if I go quiet for a long period of time then I have died, please buy a catfish in my memory :rip.
 
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Hello; I like that part.

I am still not allowed to “like” anyone here.

This is the only real punishment of probation.

Otherwise it’s a nothing-burger.

. . . I was mislead about what I would be doing. I am getting the metals ready for the welders mainly. I’ll cut it, bend it, put holes in it, move it around the building, etc, however no welding. . .

Maybe good training for a prototype shop job. We used to draw these huge wine tanks that had miles of bead on them. Imagine just welding tank seams all day long. Burn a roll, change the wire, maybe change the gas, burn another . . . Zzzzzz.....

Production welding pretty pays pretty good but it’s often a really a boring tiring job. If you do custom fab shop stuff it can be a pretty challenging job, planning out the setup, order and process, and that’s what’s interesting.

It’s very some hands-on manufacturing engineering. What to weld when and where. Deciding where the stress will go and how to let it out.

A good welder can get work in any town. Things always need repair.
 
I am still not allowed to “like” anyone here.

This is the only real punishment of probation. You folks may feel that I like you all somewhat less.

Otherwise it’s a nothing-burger.
Hello; You also cannot start a new private conversation, only can be active in older conversations. I guess it can depend on the mod who gets to monitor your posts. It took hours to a day or so sometimes to get a post show up back when I was on probation.
 
Hello; You all have likely been following the news about the covid19 virus approaching a year now. In the USA so far there are two approved vaccines. Limited supplies so far but people are getting vaccinated. Not real clear what the actual number of recovered may be but there are bound to be a good number. There are the proven number of cases from actual testing and also some unknown number who have had the illness and recovered but were never tested. These two things, vaccines and recovered people, ought to be an indicator of positive progress.
On top of that it is, so far, understood the illness is not too bad for most people. Not that old guys like me are not at risk, but most others may get sick but will not become seriously ill. Even the new mutations do not, so far, appear to be making people become more seriously ill. If I have it correct the new strain (mutation) seems to be easier to catch but not any more serious.
There are some pretty good ways to treat those who become ill now. Some proven medicines and proven ways to treat the symptoms. The heath care people are in the process of becoming immune with the vaccines, so should be better able to deal with those who are ill. I am guessing, but at the very least they ought not have to suit up so severely with PPE which has to be a chore in itself.

In spite of what seems to be the good news there are so many "the worst is yet to come" stories still showing up. I do not have a good insight as to why there is a overload of critical care beds in some places. Is it just the virus cases overloading the system? Is it that the hospitals, being for profit business, have not kept up enough extra capacity for these sorts of situations. Back around nine months ago there was a big push for the ventilators and it is my understanding we now have plenty of them, even enough to export. In NYC some tent hospitals were built in just weeks and a hospital ship was sent to handle the expected number of cases. As I recall some of that extra capacity was never used. In states where it is not so cold could the tent facilities be set up again?
 
We have just been slapped back into level 3 (of 5) lockdown. No more alcohol sales, a curfew, public mask enforcement and such. We are surrounded by hotspot districts so must be careful. One family member has possibly caught it but they're doing alright, some friends parents also have it. We have the most cases in Africa, so far at 1Mil, with about 10k new cases a day. Just hoping for the vaccine to come down soon.
 
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