How to properly use dechlorinator?

[Dr Joe]

i always add enough for the tank regardless how much water is changed cant hurt and it soaks up any ammonia in the tank.

Doesn't soak up ammonia...creates it during the chlorine breakdown, thats's why ammonia levels go up with W/C's done with fresh water.

[quote=RadleyMiller;596617;]The reaction that takes place takes place in less than a second, so it doesn't hurt the fish. I just pour an entire large bottle of dechlor into my pond and get the hose running. If I had to use 5 gallon buckets and dump them, it would take 100 bucketfuls. Besides, the UV sterilzer breaks down the clorine as well.[/quote]

Do you have a link on that? I was trying to explain it on another forum and couldn't find a reference to a time frame...

its cuz if they take a lil whiff of chlorine they will flip over a die just like that.
happened to me..

Dr Joe

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[Sunpoe]

I use the python method, I never had a problem even with discus.

 

[justin]

I use 0.5 mL or cc on a typical syringe for 5 gallons of water. Atleast thats what my bottle of prime says. It lasts along time.

 

[justin]

Also, I have 2 pacus 3 years old now and I fill their tank right out of the garden hose and don't add prime until I'm done. My pacus don't flip over and die.

 

[StevePerry]

You can also let tap water sit out for several day and it will dechlorinate itself. Thats probably an option if you have a smaller tank. I know its not very feasible for many of us with large tanks

 

[JD_MAN]

I have never used any chemicals in any of my tanks including dechlorinator. The only thing that I have ever put in my tank is aquarium salt. I have been doing this for quite a few years now, and this includes my tank that has discus, angels, and a ton of loaches.

I have read that I should be adding things during water changes, but am now scared to change what has been working this long.

BTW - All of my water changes are done with a python system.

 

[Dr Joe]

Also, I have 2 pacus 3 years old now and I fill their tank right out of the garden hose and don't add prime until I'm done. My pacus don't flip over and die.

Any reason you wait to put in the prime?

I lost 3 pacu all different ages that way...I grabbed the wrong bucket (untreated).

I have never used any chemicals in any of my tanks including dechlorinator. The only thing that I have ever put in my tank is aquarium salt. I have been doing this for quite a few years now, and this includes my tank that has discus, angels, and a ton of loaches.

I have read that I should be adding things during water changes, but am now scared to change what has been working this long.

BTW - All of my water changes are done with a python system.

Courtesy of justin: http://www.aquascienceresearch.com/APInfo/Salt.htm

Dr Joe

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[ChileRelleno]

Some public water works add more chlorine/chloramine than others, levels are always being adjusted to compensate for positive testing of bacteria and etc...
Some have levels so high the water reeks of chlorine like a swimming pool.

If your water had high levels of chlorine/chloramine, it could seriously/adversely impact a intolerant species and/or your filtrations bioculture.

So likely one had high and the other low levels, hence their individual experiences with Pacu.
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It is my understanding that...
Prime and other dechlorinators do not create NH3(ammonia) when detoxifying simple'chlorine'...
It is when the bond of 'chloramine'(chlorine+ammonia) is broken that ammonia is released and detoxified along with the chlorine
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Salt has it's uses, but IMO/IME everday use isn't one of'em, FW fish are FW not BW/SW, we can't so simply improve on natures natural selection/evolution, we can't improve a healthy fish's osmoregulation, slime coat production or etc.
Salt is a remedy/tonic.

 

[justin]

No specific reason. Thats just how I've done it in my 375. 50% water change and add chemicals when almost full and I get the pumps running again. My water has chlorine and chloramines and even has a slight chlorine smell to it. I have never had any problems in 18 years of keeping aquariums. The worst thing I used to do was when I was 10-12 years old and had a saltwater fish only tank. I would adjust the salt in the tank after adding regular tapwater without salt for a water change. I never lost a fish there either. Amazing luck huh.

 

[RadleyMiller]

Doesn't soak up ammonia...creates it during the chlorine breakdown, thats's why ammonia levels go up with W/C's done with fresh water.

[quote=RadleyMiller;596617;]The reaction that takes place takes place in less than a second, so it doesn't hurt the fish. I just pour an entire large bottle of dechlor into my pond and get the hose running. If I had to use 5 gallon buckets and dump them, it would take 100 bucketfuls. Besides, the UV sterilzer breaks down the clorine as well.

Do you have a link on that? I was trying to explain it on another forum and couldn't find a reference to a time frame...





Dr Joe

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Hyperclorate (bleach) is broken down by UV, correct me if I am wrong? UVC has the highest frequency/shortest wavelength so would it break it down. I just use the dechlor and haven't had any problems.

Some public water works add more chlorine/chloramine than others, levels are always being adjusted to compensate for positive testing of bacteria and etc...
Some have levels so high the water reeks of chlorine like a swimming pool.

If your water had high levels of chlorine/chloramine, it could seriously/adversely impact a intolerant species and/or your filtrations bioculture.

So likely one had high and the other low levels, hence their individual experiences with Pacu.
..................................................................................................................................

It is my understanding that...
Prime and other dechlorinators do not create NH3(ammonia) when detoxifying simple'chlorine'...
It is when the bond of 'chloramine'(chlorine+ammonia) is broken that ammonia is released and detoxified along with the chlorine
..................................................................................................................................

Salt has it's uses, but IMO/IME everday use isn't one of'em, FW fish are FW not BW/SW, we can't so simply improve on natures natural selection/evolution, we can't improve a healthy fish's osmoregulation, slime coat production or etc.
Salt is a remedy/tonic.

I have brackish, thats why I add salt. I agree with you on the creating ammonia thing, chlorine in the water is CLO4- so it does not make ammonia. When (CLO4)(NH4) is broken when chloramines are broken down, the hyperchlorate is detoxified but the ammonia is still there.