I'm a bit confused about species difference. I found a couple of articles that indicate that Uaru were cocholate cichlid but other articles that indicate cocholate cichlid are Hypselectara temporalis. Are these fishes related and are they all cocholate? Also is there any difference between Hypselecara from Peru or "Rio Oiapoque"; are are they the same - if different - different how - i realize these are different catch locations but sometime fishes from different locations have diffrent traits ?
Hypselecara temporalis vs Uaru amphiacanthoides: question which is cocholate ?
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The trade name for both species of the genus Hypselacara, both temporals, and H. coryphanoides are often used interchangeably as Chocolate cichlids.
I have never heard Uaru referred to as a Chocolate.
But common names vary from city to city, country to country, so I try to never use them anyway.
I find using common names often will get you something, you are not asking for.
As an example, if you ask for a "red terror" you can get either Mayaheros uropthalmus from Mexico, or Mesoheros festae from western S America, and either would be correct. (in actuality it was used first, for uropthalmus)
Another problem might be using the name Pearl Cichlid.
I have seen Geophagus braziliensus listed as Pearls, and many other Geophagines as well, and also seen a number of Herichthyines listed as pearl cichlids, such as H carpintus, and a number of others in the genus.
Even goofier, I have seen the Mexican Parachromis friedrchstalii listed as hornet cichlids, but also the African cichlid, Heterotilapia buttikoferi.
So if you really want a certain fish, using the scientific name is your best option.
I have never heard Uaru referred to as a Chocolate.
But common names vary from city to city, country to country, so I try to never use them anyway.
I find using common names often will get you something, you are not asking for.
As an example, if you ask for a "red terror" you can get either Mayaheros uropthalmus from Mexico, or Mesoheros festae from western S America, and either would be correct. (in actuality it was used first, for uropthalmus)
Another problem might be using the name Pearl Cichlid.
I have seen Geophagus braziliensus listed as Pearls, and many other Geophagines as well, and also seen a number of Herichthyines listed as pearl cichlids, such as H carpintus, and a number of others in the genus.
Even goofier, I have seen the Mexican Parachromis friedrchstalii listed as hornet cichlids, but also the African cichlid, Heterotilapia buttikoferi.
So if you really want a certain fish, using the scientific name is your best option.
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Ok. Do you know if there is a difference in behavior or requirements between the Peru and Rio catch locations? I presume Hypselecara temporalis is what most folks think of Cocholate. Also can I mix Cocholate, Uaru and Geo winmilleri in a dense planted 400 gallon aquarium ?
I do not know the differences in catch location variants.
If one location is white water, and one is black it may be a slight challenge.
Compare the white water parameters above, with black water parameters below.
400 gallons should be plenty of space, but....
Uaru are consummate vegetarians, and may decimate a densely planted tank, very quickly.
If one location is white water, and one is black it may be a slight challenge.
Compare the white water parameters above, with black water parameters below.
400 gallons should be plenty of space, but....
Uaru are consummate vegetarians, and may decimate a densely planted tank, very quickly.
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Uaru, Geo's and H. Temporalis will be fine together. Plants not so much as
duanes
said. Uaru will eat them or the geo's will dig them up.
duanes
said. Uaru will eat them or the geo's will dig them up.The ones in "Rio Oiapoque" ? I wonder if the fishes are different or if the low ph causes them to be more colourful ? Not too worried about the digging - will have mostly established vals and swords with strong root systems. Eating is another matter
Old literature around thenortheast refers to both as chocolates. Common names are the worst.
I believe that the river mentioned by the OP is a highly colorful regional variant of temporalis, that’s hard to find.
Yes I miswrote, and meant H coryphanoides, instead of krause.
Old literature around thenortheast refers to both as chocolates. Common names are the worst.
I believe that the river mentioned by the OP is a highly colorful regional variant of temporalis, that’s hard to find.