I got a "Black Jaguar"...

[terd ferguson]

It does look more freddy than lois. and probably is a freddy. Any new pics with it less stressed?

It doesnt have the silver lining on the top part

Check out my post above. Due to the stock in my tank, it takes a little longer than a day or two for new fishes to settle into their more natural coloration. They are darker showing their subdominance until they feel more at home. And none of my loisellis have silver on their back. It's usually more pink to purple.

 

[D-Train]

Check out my post above. Due to the stock in my tank, it takes a little longer than a day or two for new fishes to settle into their more natural coloration. They are darker showing their subdominance until they feel more at home. And none of my loisellis have silver on their back. It's usually more pink to purple.

Oh yeah I forgot how BR00TAL your tank was haha.
Mine goes from silver to black to blue to purple so I was just saying one of its many colours

 

[terd ferguson]

Oh yeah I forgot how BR00TAL your tank was haha.
Mine goes from silver to black to blue to purple so I was just saying one of its many colours

They're all slightly different, but also very similar. That's what's so hard for me when it comes to differentiating loiselli from freddy. Sometimes it's easy to tell, other times not so much. For me at least.

And the dynamics in my tank would definately surprise most people. There is no lip locking or chasing or anything like that. It's just the immediate intimidation factor when you put a 3" or 4" fish in with so many BIIIG ones. The little ones expect to be ripped apart. It just doesn't happen. It takes them a while to get used to that. Once they do, they settle down and start coloring up. This one was competing for food at the top with everybody else five minutes after going in. That's unusual for me and goes a long way to predicting a particular fish's atitude.

I use the analogy of a super max prison where nobody gets stabbed due to the shared mutual respect between gangsters. A gangster's "prison utopia" if you will, lol. New guys are scared to death when they get there, but once they realize they're not going to get raped in the chow line or stabbed in the shower on a daily basis, they settle down. If you give respect, you get respect. Likewise, if you act like prey, you'll get preyed upon.

 

[D-Train]

They're all slightly different, but also very similar. That's what's so hard for me when it comes to differentiating loiselli from freddy. Sometimes it's easy to tell, other times not so much. For me at least.

I know what you mean. I find it very hard to differentiate between the two species when they aren't adults

 

[mohinder]

Nice "Black Jag". Creative naming at your fish store.

I vote Loisellei on the ID.

 

[cichlidinsomniac]

that's a freddy, got one just like it!!

yep i agree with freddy. i had 2 lois and there markings were different from the freddy.

It does look more freddy than lois. and probably is a freddy. Any new pics with it less stressed?

It doesnt have the silver lining on the top part

no chance, it's actually quite easy to distinguish between the two species

 

[D-Train]

no chance, it's actually quite easy to distinguish between the two species

Enlighten me dear sir

 

[cichlidinsomniac]

Enlighten me dear sir

i'd be happy to

male loisellei's have worming markings male freddies have black spotting

female freddy's are bright yellow lois females are yellowish orange

male freddies are a less intense yellow than the females, but much more a male lois which is an light brown/orange with a metallic purple sheen

freddies are sleeker than the more foot ball shaped lois

the stripe that extends down a lois is less broken up than that of a freddy

 

[D-Train]

i'd be happy to

male loisellei's have worming markings male freddies have black spotting

female freddy's are bright yellow lois females are yellowish orange

male freddies are a less intense yellow than the females, but much more a male lois which is an light brown/orange with a metallic purple sheen

freddies are sleeker than the more foot ball shaped lois

the stripe that extends down a lois is less broken up than that of a freddy

Very helpful, thanks man. So is that first Loisellei a male or female? Male I assume due to the wormies haha

 

[terd ferguson]

i'd be happy to

male loisellei's have worming markings male freddies have black spotting

female freddy's are bright yellow lois females are yellowish orange

male freddies are a less intense yellow than the females, but much more a male lois which is an light brown/orange with a metallic purple sheen

freddies are sleeker than the more foot ball shaped lois

the stripe that extends down a lois is less broken up than that of a freddy

Good post. The worm markings vs. black spots goes a long way explaining the major difference for me.