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the jd is a pussy so the fm knows it, thats pretty creul doing that to him
 
I find this pretty cruel to be honest. Its just a fish you should have realised that cichlids have the potential to be jerks and thought about this. What you did is far worse than what the fish did, terrorizing it and scaring it literally half to death.
 
Glacier;1800801; said:
I find this pretty cruel to be honest. Its just a fish you should have realised that cichlids have the potential to be jerks and thought about this. What you did is far worse than what the fish did, terrorizing it and scaring it literally half to death.


exactly, i would have moved him, people get flamed for just moving fish, rather than chasing and scaring the livng $4it out of a fish with a flowerpot:screwy:
 
ThePapercut000;1800537; said:
...I put it under the flower pot to think about his actions...
ThePapercut000;1800718; said:
He knows what he did.
So, this fish should (a) know what humans consider to be socially acceptable behaviour for it? And (b) should be aware that s/he failed to fulfil those human-defined behavioural requirements? And (c) should then be aware that what happened next was in fact 'punishment' that (d) was inflicted due to the fish's failure to 'live up to' some arbitrary, human-imposed behavioural standard?

Does it concern you that you've made so many assumptions regarding a creature that, to our knowledge, has no higher-level cognitive functions whatsoever, never mind fully developed concepts of morality, right and wrong, punishment and so forth?

ThePapercut000;1800522; said:
I've trapped my firemouth under a flower pot... (...it did fix my aggression problem)...
ThePapercut000;1800537; said:
...I chased my firemouth till he just gave up on life...
ThePapercut000;1800718; said:
I only hate him. Just him.
This is pretty disturbing. I'm not sure that it did fix your aggression problem, really, and I think it is quite sad that you have taken such an extraordinary dislike to something so defenceless that you chose to place under your care. If you don't want an aggressive fish, I wonder then why you bought it or why you keep it? I sincerely hope that you rehome the poor creature, and, for that matter, all your pets, until you have sorted out for yourself why you need to inflict suffering on those weaker and smaller than yourself.
 
chillidragon;1801023; said:
So, this fish should (a) know what humans consider to be socially acceptable behaviour for it? And (b) should be aware that s/he failed to fulfil those human-defined behavioural requirements? And (c) should then be aware that what happened next was in fact 'punishment' that (d) was inflicted due to the fish's failure to 'live up to' some arbitrary, human-imposed behavioural standard?

Does it concern you that you've made so many assumptions regarding a creature that, to our knowledge, has no higher-level cognitive functions whatsoever, never mind fully developed concepts of morality, right and wrong, punishment and so forth?




This is pretty disturbing. I'm not sure that it did fix your aggression problem, really, and I think it is quite sad that you have taken such an extraordinary dislike to something so defenceless that you chose to place under your care. If you don't want an aggressive fish, I wonder then why you bought it or why you keep it? I sincerely hope that you rehome the poor creature, and, for that matter, all your pets, until you have sorted out for yourself why you need to inflict suffering on those weaker and smaller than yourself.

:iagree::iagree: Great post. I am quite sure the FM did not "learn" anything, nor "knows" what he did - he was probably severely weakened due to the stress and fright, which allowed the JD to become dominant since the FM was now too weakened to defend itself. Since you "hate" the FM so, why spend all the time, money and effort to keep him? Please give him to a LFS or a friend that has a suitable home for him.
 
I think a pot should be placed over you so you can think about what you've done.
 
the firemouth didnt learn anything as cichlids have it in them from birth to be aggresive and protect there area,,,,,,
I had a problem with my jaguar and isolated the first time when he was 5inches then added him all fine for 6months!!!!then came the aggro again so isolation then Week later added him again only to find hes more aggresive,
if you have huge tanks then obviously your going to be ok because they have there space,,,
you can not hate a cichlid becuase its aggresive its your fault<as in the keepers>for bringing these fish together in small confinds!!!
if you want a peaceful tank only have either a male and female or a single cichlid
unless you have a huge tank well above 150us as this is my tank size and all my cichlids are gone now except my oscar pair

pps your firemouth is only a juvi aswell
 
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