I just wanted to throw this out there.

[Plec123]

both of my rays are captive bred, so no they did not come from an expansive amazonian river ecosystem . . . they came from another glass box.

thats goin in my sig

 

[andersp90]

both of my rays are captive bred, so no they did not come from an expansive amazonian river ecosystem . . . they came from another glass box.

Yes it seems so obvius dosent it? But its not.

I would make sense if it was applied to a human. Thats is also why it makes sense in our heads.

But thats not how fish function. They are born with the same information about the world as their parents have. Its called instincts.

That is also why a wild ray and a cb one will act in the same way when put into a tank.

Tom is right in one thing. Swimming up the glass is a reaction to the limited space in a tank. And when you cant get any longer, do to an object in the way, what do you do? Yes, you try to swim over it.

What does this prove? That baby stingrays dont understand that they are in a confined space.

Adult rays rarely swim up the tank glass (unless its feeding time) as they are prob aware of the fact that they are in a confined space.

Rays are smart, and their intellect will prob grow with age, just as their body does.

Case closed?

 

[Gshock]

Yes it seems so obvius dosent it? But its not.

I would make sense if it was applied to a human. Thats is also why it makes sense in our heads.

But thats not how fish function. They are born with the same information about the world as their parents have. Its called instincts.

That is also why a wild ray and a cb one will act in the same way when put into a tank.

Tom is right in one thing. Swimming up the glass is a reaction to the limited space in a tank. And when you cant get any longer, do to an object in the way, what do you do? Yes, you try to swim over it.

What does this prove? That baby stingrays dont understand that they are in a confined space.

Adult rays rarely swim up the tank glass (unless its feeding time) as they are prob aware of the fact that they are in a confined space.

Rays are smart, and their intellect will prob grow with age, just as their body does.

Case closed?

well said

 

[Tom]

Yes it seems so obvius dosent it? But its not.

I would make sense if it was applied to a human. Thats is also why it makes sense in our heads.

But thats not how fish function. They are born with the same information about the world as their parents have. Its called instincts.

That is also why a wild ray and a cb one will act in the same way when put into a tank.

Tom is right in one thing. Swimming up the glass is a reaction to the limited space in a tank. And when you cant get any longer, do to an object in the way, what do you do? Yes, you try to swim over it.

What does this prove? That baby stingrays dont understand that they are in a confined space.

Adult rays rarely swim up the tank glass (unless its feeding time) as they are prob aware of the fact that they are in a confined space.

Rays are smart, and their intellect will prob grow with age, just as their body does.

Case closed?

This makes alot of sense.

Please everyone, understand that this thread was not meant to offend or attack anyone. I am a fellow fish keeper. Why would I throw stones when standing on the third story of a glass house?

I was not expecting so many to be as offended as they were. Instead of started a good debate, other members started to attack me. Perhaps that is because I was not tactful in presenting my idea. That is what happens when I go on MFK after a few drinks.

I never said that my theory was correct. I just put it on the table for a good debate. I was attacked before responding negatively towards anyone else.

I offer my apologies to anyone I have offended.

 

[Tom]

I am always open to other ideas. I never stated that my theory was 100 percent correct.
I have been treated as if I did.

 

[andersp90]

This makes alot of sense.

Please everyone, understand that this thread was not meant to offend or attack anyone. I am a fellow fish keeper. Why would I throw stones when standing on the third story of a glass house?

I was not expecting so many to be as offended as they were. Instead of started a good debate, other members started to attack me. Perhaps that is because I was not tactful in presenting my idea. That is what happens when I go on MFK after a few drinks.

I never said that my theory was correct. I just put it on the table for a good debate. I was attacked before responding negatively towards anyone else.


I offer my apologies to anyone I have offended.

**** happens mate.

 

[turkeyboy85]

next thing is we will bring back the....... "my stingray died because it was obsessed with bubbles!"

 

[Kolossus]

next thing is we will bring back the....... "my stingray died because it was obsessed with bubbles!"

 

[ShadowStryder]

I think most all negative reaction stemmed from the fact that, as ray keepers,
no wants to think that they are being cruel to an animal/fish (their pet) that
they/we have come to care about.