i know im being skeptical but ID this pls.

[TimTheBadass]

come to think of it , it does has very similiarities to the ocell video. As for the iris it just slight red not really red.. so im not sure on that part..
and the tail spangles... it only halfway ... just like the ocell... :S

Your fish are kelberi. You need to listen to the more experienced keepers on this site. I've noticed they are all saying kelberi. New cichla keepers know what to look for when identifying cichla. I know I couldn't when I started out.

You seem to be unaware that kelberi also have red eyes and their tail isn't fully spangle till they are adult.

 

[GoodPho~D]

I said the spangles on the fins not the "markings" on the body numb nuts, but if you knew cichla you would know what I was talking about.

There are only 15 described species (a fraction of which are imported and an even smaller fraction are bred), these fish were captive bred, sold as kelberi, look like kelberi, and are kelberi. Kelberi do not come from the places you posted (which are misspelled by the way.) Rio Tapajos is in the Amazon river drainage, Tarapoto is in Peru, and Enviria lake is also in Peru.

Oh and to bring the whole do you know what species it is back to you, why do you say they are ocells? They are not ocellaris, they are not monoculus, which leaves one similar species (which is the only species of the cichla mentioned that has gold spangles on the anal fin) KELBERI.

Why do you keep saying I don't know what it is when clearly you don't know what it is? There's no need for DNA testing when the taxonomic descriptions match the fish the OP has.

I'm going to call you dumb, because you are still trying to say they are something they aren't and because you are insulting me when I was trying to be civil with you.

I'm right-You're wrong-his fish are kelberi-move on.

Wow your so retarded! I never claimed they were Ocell either. I said they look like it LMAO. As we all know sometimes they don't keep all the color or spangling they get when growing up. As I remembered it you said "kelberi. Ocells do not have the fin spangling and aren't as gold" so you were talking about the body numb nuts. dude just its just a fish, can't we just be happy for him that he got some nice fishes?! Don't be a dick! I was just trying to defend my words not insult you

 

[I<3fish]

Wow your so retarded! I never claimed they were Ocell either. I said they look like it LMAO. As we all know sometimes they don't keep all the color or spangling they get when growing up. As I remembered it you said "kelberi. Ocells do not have the fin spangling and aren't as gold" so you were talking about the body numb nuts. dude just its just a fish, can't we just be happy for him that he got some nice fishes?! Don't be a dick! I was just trying to defend my words not insult you

Well, saying they look like ocells is as good as claiming them to be ocells in my book, and I would imagine many would agree with me on that one. Sure I was talking about the body, I meant the body coloration on ocells isn't as gold, I didn't say anything about the "spots" on them. Plus ocells don't have gold spangling, they have more of an opaque and silver spangling on their fins.

You are the one who needs to chill out, you are now calling me names in order to make yourself look tough. You don't know what you are talking about and should just give up because you are wrong.

I think you need to read this quote-It's a great one.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

-- Abraham Lincoln

 

[GoodPho~D]

Well, saying they look like ocells is as good as claiming them to be ocells in my book, and I would imagine many would agree with me on that one. Sure I was talking about the body, I meant the body coloration on ocells isn't as gold, I didn't say anything about the "spots" on them. Plus ocells don't have gold spangling, they have more of an opaque and silver spangling on their fins.

You are the one who needs to chill out, you are now calling me names in order to make yourself look tough. You don't know what you are talking about and should just give up because you are wrong.

I think you need to read this quote-It's a great one.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

-- Abraham Lincoln

HAHA I got one for you "Better to speak out and speak your mind than to sit back and let somebody brainwash you" - GoodPho

Forget it! you lost! I'm sure anybody who can read knows whats going on.

 

[channarox]

Gotta love cichla politics....

Sanotsuke, just grow them out a little and see for yourself...
Why keep worrying about it, they are and will be nice fish.

 

[GoodPho~D]

Gotta love cichla politics....

Sanotsuke, just grow them out a little and see for yourself...
Why keep worrying about it, they are and will be nice fish.

AMEN

 

[Sanotsuke]

wow... look like war... but my kelberis are gone ... gave them awaay for red tail golden ;P

 

[channarox]

wow... look like war... but my kelberis are gone ... gave them awaay for red tail golden ;P

That's too bad.
Sometimes, the key to cichla is patience.

 

[Sanotsuke]

im just not being impatient i had them for months.but im being poisoned by asian arrowanas , well im asian and from singapore i can get them here easily XD.. well not w/o money of coz lol...

hoping to get a shiny gold arrow in my tank
for luck.
and of coz 4" rtg is a long way to go b4 any gold shine start showing.. plus 2 injured rtg will take a while too...

tried to comm them.. they just hate each other bad

 

[channarox]

im just not being impatient i had them for months.but im being poisoned by asian arrowanas , well im asian and from singapore i can get them here easily XD.. well not w/o money of coz lol...

hoping to get a shiny gold arrow in my tank
for luck.
and of coz 4" rtg is a long way to go b4 any gold shine start showing.. plus 2 injured rtg will take a while too...

tried to comm them.. they just hate each other bad

LOL I know you're in Singapore, I am too.
Hmmm.... I do like asian arowanas, but was never a fan of grades and such.... Never owned one.
They aren't attractive enough for their price to me, I'd rather get something else.
Soon though... Maybe.