that looks like two males actually
but for the new pic the fishis fin is in the way of the gill but it kind of looks like a beat up female
also if you wan't to breed them and have something to do with the fry the go for it by a male if you do look for these things on a male
when small around 3-6'' look for
little color to some spots on gill plate
bigger mouths
high spangle count ( the shiny spots on them ) they will have rows going down there body from an early age
also the tend to be bigger around and have more red in there fins
also they will breed as early as 3-4'' i've seen a 4'' female breed with a 8'' male but never the other way around males tend to need to be 5-6'' before the start to notice girls
thanks killerfish i am looking for a male around my area.there is one male at petsmart i think its a male he is about 3" ihavent really check him out but the guy working there says its a male i dont really trust employs not always.
