i think my sens are porking

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yes and no. yes because the male is interested. no because more often than not the female ain't interested or ready. if all you see is action from the male (e.g. chasing after the female or nudging/rubbing) and no reaction from the female or she's running away, then that means she isn't ready.

Now if both of them are reacting to each other, then you're one step closer. It's only one step closer because bichir breeding is no slam dunk even if you see some courtship behavior, and if they actually mate, congrats! Now comes the difficult part of hatching the eggs and raising the frys.

Gobrian44;4239721; said:
sounds like it. ur gonna have a few hundred bundles of joy soon lol Congrats

sbuse;4239740; said:
i don't know if i should seperate them from the tank or what...my endli has come up to them several times looking for food to steal...in fact you can see it in the background of a few pics with a look like "yum yums?!?"...that and i don't think that baby sens could last long with, large ck, pbass, ornate, endli, aros, dats, bgk and a lima cat as tankmates...i don't want to move them as they did this alittle before then i moved them to a diff tank and they stopped...
:ROFL:you guys made it sound like breeding bichir is like breeding convict cichlids, that you're gonna get hundreds of babies just because you have a pair. sbuse, you're right, the other fish will most likely eat the eggs, probably even the parents. Whether you separate them or keep them in the current tank, if the mating actually occurs and you do see eggs, you need to remove the eggs.
 
well the female isn't running and she is doing some rubbing and nudging herself...ill keep watching for something, as the only time the three aren't rubbing and tuching like this is when they get a breath and even then sometimes they go as a group to breath remaining in contact with each other...i am just tring to see what to do if'n they are doing the horazontal mambo...

do the eggs need flow like trout eggs or how would one care for them...i know breeding isn't common for bichirs, but sens are the more readly bred if you will...so the chance is good....
 
sbuse;4239776; said:
well the female isn't running and she is doing some rubbing and nudging herself...ill keep watching for something, as the only time the three aren't rubbing and tuching like this is when they get a breath and even then sometimes they go as a group to breath remaining in contact with each other...i am just tring to see what to do if'n they are doing the horazontal mambo...

do the eggs need flow like trout eggs or how would one care for them...i know breeding isn't common for bichirs, but sens are the more readly bred if you will...so the chance is good....
check the primer. bichirs like to lay the eggs in plants, and most of the eggs will stick to the plants. java moss can be used, or java ferns, or probably anything artificial that resembles the environment that java moss/fern create. FYI, sens seem more readily bred because farms use hormone to induce breeding. actually most commercial bichir breeding are done with hormones.
 
Infblue;4239812; said:
check the primer. bichirs like to lay the eggs in plants, and most of the eggs will stick to the plants. java moss can be used, or java ferns, or probably anything artificial that resembles the environment that java moss/fern create. FYI, sens seem more readily bred because farms use hormone to induce breeding. actually most commercial bichir breeding are done with hormones.

what is 'the primer'?

i was refuring to some on here that have bred them with out hormones and not the others...i dont have pland in the tank anymore, but they don't leave the rock bed i have in one side...
 
Cool,good luck.



Steve
 
You will soon see eggs on the bottom if there are no plants for them to attached on if they do breed. The problem now is raising the fry as they cannibalize on each other. The breeding ritual takes about 3-5 days to fully complete as the female don't lay all the eggs right away. Just less than 100 and the male fertilize them. They do the ritual on the next day again when the temp drops down till the female release all 300-350+ eggs

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King-eL;4240322; said:
You will soon see eggs on the bottom if there are no plants for them to attached on if they do breed. The problem now is raising the fry as they cannibalize on each other. The breeding ritual takes about 3-5 days to fully complete as the female don't lay all the eggs right away. Just less than 100 and the male fertilize them. They do the ritual on the next day again when the temp drops down till the female release all 300-350+ eggs

3 days old and ready to hatch
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thanx for the info and pics...i have been tring to find some pics...i may go to home depot and get some things to seperate them from the tankmates...should i move the rocks to the other side of the divider i am going to make to make it easier to get the eggs and see if they have layed any?
 
sbuse;4240379; said:
thanx for the info and pics...i have been tring to find some pics...i may go to home depot and get some things to seperate them from the tankmates...should i move the rocks to the other side of the divider i am going to make to make it easier to get the eggs and see if they have layed any?

Best to add some plastic plants or cut up plastic bags. Once the eggs stick to those thing they are easy to move to a new tank. Use the same water in the tank they came out. Real plants seems to be a hassle to move.
 
King-eL;4240511; said:
Best to add some plastic plants or cut up plastic bags. Once the eggs stick to those thing they are easy to move to a new tank. Use the same water in the tank they came out. Real plants seems to be a hassle to move.

i'll throw a plastic plant in the tank...would the eggs get lost in the rocks or would the fish lay them on the plant?
 
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