I want YOUR opinions... An ethical question...

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Most fish keepers feel a certain amount of responsibility towards their fish. Obviously some more than others. Some, flush live fish down the toilets. Some build 10,000g tanks just for their fish. (See JohnPtc) I understand this is a hobby, but even for those who are emotionally unattached (I somewhat include myself in this category) a certain amount of care is dedicated to your fish.

So my question comes upon a situation like this: You've purchased two oscars. You've provided adequate room for them in the form of a 125g tank. This is your only aquarium, and the oscars are your only fish. You have no room, or money for that matter for another tank. After 6 months of water labor and nutritional feedings, your oscars have decided that they cannot be housed together. They are constantly at each other lip locking, biting one another, splashing water out of the tank, etc. You decide something needs to be done before one of the two gets hurt. What do you do?

Do you return your pet to the pet store? Or do you euthanize your pet?
Perhaps this is going to be a touchy subject so I want to emphasize courtesy and civil words.


Now some of you may wonder - Why in the world would you euthanize him instead of returning him to the pet store? Well the answer is simple. The fish may endure less suffering. It's my belief that the percentage of responsible caring educated fish keepers out there is a very low one. What are the odds that your fish returning to the pet store is adopted by one? Low as well. In that case the most likely scenario is that your former fish suffers a shortened crippled life likely in a small tank, with very poor water quality. Maybe he never gets adopted and lives out the rest of his life in a small pet store tank where he acquires ich, is fed rosy reds, and is kept with aggressive cichlids that eventually bully him to death. These scenarios are all very real and not even close to the worst case... I've seen much much worse, as I'm sure many of us have. So instead of submitting him to these terrible things, you euthanize. Peacefully send him on his way without pain or suffering.

Or you take a chance. There is that small percentage of cichlids who are returned to the pet store who are picked up by an MFKer. Perhaps he is in excellent condition with good colors and good vigor, and attracts a keen eye, one with experience and knowledge. And he lives for another 7-8 happy years.... In a pond with other peaceful cichlids, or in a 180g tank all to himself (See Finnis55).

What would you do? Now I know there are other options out there... call up a fellow fish keeper ask him to take your fish, call a local aquarium, etc, etc... but I want you to choose between these options. Which route would you go with? Why? What are your thoughts and opinions on the matter? Debate. :D
 
Well I actually have had to debate this topic only once before, most times I have been faced with this problem i had felt confident enough to give the fish to my LFS because of it having good coloration and other stuff like that. I understand very well why you wouldnt want to give it to the store though and I think that is very considerate of you. Probably the best route is to give it to a fellow MFKer or if you have any good friends that share the hobby, but in the end i think the best route if you cant give it to a friend is to give it to the store

Good luck!
Good Luck!
 
Personally I would either find another fish keeper that you trust to take the fish (IE MFK, Posting on craigslist, etc...) or give to a local fish store. To me, putting down the fish is like you bringing home a dog and keeping them for 6 months and saying "I don't want the dog anymore, let's take her to the pound and have her put to sleep." I feel that there is always somebody out there that can provide the room/care for an animal incase you can not. Even if you take it back a LFS, take it to one that you respect and know very well that will put it in a good home. You did your part and I would feel better with myself doing that instead of just putting the fish down.

Just my 2 cents worth ;)
 
Take to the LFS, make sure they charge a high price for it so only a "serious" buyer would purchase it.


Although, if I had this problem for real, You can buy a tank divider for less than 10 bucks. you can make one for even cheaper.
 
I would prob get a tank divider for now start saving up and get a 75 gallon on craigslist. If you didn't want another tank then I would divide it until I found someone to take it. Killing it would be my last resort and I've only ever done that when a fish was suffering and knew there was nothing that could be done.

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Fish are living animals. I think of mine as pets. To get a fish you can't keep and then just kill it because you have no place to put it is so wrong. That's like saying I bought a bull mastiff but can't keep it in my apartment. so I will just put it down... It's just wrong.

Educate yourself before you buy.

When you bring a fish to the lfs it's almost like bringing a dog to the pound. Yes it is less then perfect conditions but they have a chance at a good life. you can away post an unwanted fish as free to good home.
 
I haven't found a LFS that I like enough to both purchase the fish from in the first place and then give them the fish back! They're laughing all the way to the bank on that one! I use craigslist as we all should leave the LFS out of our tanks as often as possible. Just my Opinion! I had the same problem with my Oscar a few weeks ago and within 3 hours I had a nice Oscar enthusiast picking him up by placing add on craigslist.
 
Get a divider...

Matt

erk419;5007946; said:
I would prob get a tank divider for now start saving up and get a 75 gallon on craigslist. If you didn't want another tank then I would divide it until I found someone to take it. Killing it would be my last resort and I've only ever done that when a fish was suffering and knew there was nothing that could be done.

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I faced this with a common pleco that I inherited. I first offered it to my local club members, then I talked with a LFS that I know would find him a good home and treat him right. I ended up finding a home for him on my own, but I don't think I would euthanize an oscar except as a last resort. I would post pics here and find some local clubs and finally a good LFS.
 
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