I have seen some supposed red devils barred like that as juveniles then they start coloring up around 4" or so, or at least mine did.
id fish please?,told it is a midas by LFS
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Looks more like a red devil than midas to me. The face is kind of long for midas. It's barred now but it's going to fade and color up.
It is a Red Devil. You can tell by looking at the mouth. A Red Devil's mouth comes to a point, like V. A Midas is more U shaped. I also purchased a fish that looks similiar to that and wondered the same thing. So I did a lot of searching and studying. It does help that it is now 3" and obvious what it is. I also have a Xiloaensis and urs looks a bit like it.
How big is the fish? About an 1.5"
Here are a couple before and now picks of mine. This whole changing process took about 5 weeks. I bought it on Aug.07 and the last pic was on Sept 15.
Hope this helps.
How big is the fish? About an 1.5"
Here are a couple before and now picks of mine. This whole changing process took about 5 weeks. I bought it on Aug.07 and the last pic was on Sept 15.
Hope this helps.
Well i searched for fastae for two years & many times got mayans ("poor"red terror) as fastaes, raised them for a while gave them to a pal, the five strips behind there side gills,the faded eye on the tail is located on the center....i could be mistaking.but my guts tell me other wise..hope i could help you!
I second this. Devils have a pointier face. The Midas' have a rounded face. Finding a pure Midas at a LFS is few and far between unless they are a legit store. I would guess Devil or Amphimutt.Camphilophus;4513907; said:
As mature adults, A. labiatus can be distinguished from A. citrinellus, by it's snout and mouth shape, but as young juvies it's pretty difficult, if not impossible to distinguish. Very young juvie A. citrnellus have the same elongated snout as A. labiatus.
Aquarium strain RD and midas are sometimes a mix of the two and are called by either name. Usually the fish will end up exhibiting the characteristics of one, moreso then the other, so wait and see how the fish developes, before concluding that it is a midas or an RD.
At the size your fish is, pretty much the entire A. citrenellus complex is extremely difficult to tell apart. Even as mature adults, with out knowing it's original collection point, some of these species are virtually indistinguishable. So far there is well over 10 different species described, for what is the most part, pretty much the same fish.
Aquarium strain RD and midas are sometimes a mix of the two and are called by either name. Usually the fish will end up exhibiting the characteristics of one, moreso then the other, so wait and see how the fish developes, before concluding that it is a midas or an RD.
At the size your fish is, pretty much the entire A. citrenellus complex is extremely difficult to tell apart. Even as mature adults, with out knowing it's original collection point, some of these species are virtually indistinguishable. So far there is well over 10 different species described, for what is the most part, pretty much the same fish.
Very elongated body, no? At least that's how it looks to me. Mayan went through my head at first too but after a closer look, don't think so.
Unless it came from a reliable source it is almost certainly a midevil of some sort. A cross between the 2. It will almost certainly peel as well becuase very few pet stores carry any barred amphilophus types because they do not sell very well. All of them look like that when young. They can start changing colors any were from 2"-6". Even then you will most likely not know it's complete adult color until it 10" or so.
