Andrewtfw;3362644; said:Is there any differentiation between species in terms of dorsal rays, finnage, etc?
that's what usually works, but not here
That's why you're always going to have debates about this. The only features used to define them are very vague. Even dead fish wont give you answers unless you look at DNA... and even then you might not get the right answer.

the markings on those fish look nothing alike. so were supposed to use only color alone to differentiate the two? thats a load of BS if i ever heard one. who knows what kinda of lighting or camera was used to take pics. heres my carpintis. sure, his color is different but thats due to the lighting camera. look at his markings. looks more like the OPs than the ones you posted
