ID: Parrot, KKP, or sb Red Devil?

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I had a blood parrot like that. He was adorable, and a lot more aggressive than other bps.
 
fishnut;5003697; said:
What do some of you guys look at when you consider this "parrot" to be of low quality? If I show you a small Happy Breed king kong, would some of you guys know the difference?

My Happy Breed looked the same when small. Mouth is able to close and the head is not deformed!

Low quality when it comes to shape. The ideal Blood Parrot would have a perfectly round hump, the round head, fan tail, and the upside down triangle mouth. Color wise there are different standard, the true highest quality would be a deep red but these are seldom seen outside Asia. That aside, deep fully body orange would be the ideal color.

Now don't get me wrong, just because it is low quality doesn't mean its a nice Parrot. I have a couple of these just like yours and I really like them. Lots of people don't like the mouth so these lower quality ones might appeal to people who don't like the normal Blood Parrots.
 
Thats funny, I look at this subject in exactly the opposite way.
When the parrot mouth deformity is the downside quality goes up for these fish
but as i understand the way you see it is that when it is blood parrot quality we are concerned with, the notch and mouth deformity are indicators of quality.
Thats an interesting way to look at it

but is that to say that this is desirable for blood parrot quality
but for parrot quality it is just the opposite, as these are not the traits chosen for in a king kong.
Or is it the differentiation between the mammon and ingot or the kkp and coin parrot type fish, that represent the two classical morphs of the breed?
 
Kaliedoscope;5006812; said:
Thats funny, I look at this subject in exactly the opposite way.
When the parrot mouth deformity is the downside quality goes up for these fish
but as i understand the way you see it is that when it is blood parrot quality we are concerned with, the notch and mouth deformity are indicators of quality.
Thats an interesting way to look at it

but is that to say that this is desirable for blood parrot quality
but for parrot quality it is just the opposite, as these are not the traits chosen for in a king kong.
Or is it the differentiation between the mammon and ingot or the kkp and coin parrot type fish, that represent the two classical morphs of the breed?

I am not entirely sure what is a question and statement with what you are saying.....
 
Chrisplosion;5006860; said:
I am not entirely sure what is a question and statement with what you are saying.....


lol. I just thought it was funny that you were saying that if a blood parrot dosen't look like a blood parrot than its a low quality blood parrot.
But if youre looking at a king kong parrot in this way that would make a king kong parrot a "low quality blood parrot".
and each of these "low quality mammon"

Or are you differentiating the breeds?
Obvioulsy kkp are more related to the mammon and blood parrot to the ingot.
so is this the scale you're working on?

The point im making is this...
because we've put so much thought into determining what is and what is not "quality" in a parrot, the whole point becomes moot
You can't say something is a low quality blood parrot if you have these intersecting sliding scales of quality.
There is no more a scale that includes all derivitive fish that can be graded on terms of "quality" because "quality"
only means posessing the specific traits you're looking for, and
if two different people are looking for different traits
"quality" to them is different.

what I'm saying is that yes, to the owners of a tropical fish farm trying to make generic blood parrots for mass sale, this would be regarded as a "low quality blood parrot". To someone who is trying to re-breed the mammon, this could be a "high quality" "king kong parrot".
To someone trying to breed red devils, this would be a "deformed red devil"

So it dosen't matter what it is, how rare it is is based on what genetically it is, so ,
unless we want to get into genetic testing to determine the parentage of the specific fish

let us suffice to say that it is an
"oddity"


There's no use in calling someone's fish "low quality"
when quality to you means something different than it does to me.
it just makes them think the fish isn't as good.

lol... I'm having flashbacks to the "SUPER" red texas debate.
 
COhazard, if your fish turns out to be a female, we should try to breed ours together, as they are so similar.

I agree though, in that last shot it looks kind of parroty. a lil notch there maybe?
but its parents still could be midevils....
nice pearling on the tail, usually a parroty trait, but I have a labiatus devil with the same... hmm..
 
Kaliedoscope;5009999; said:
COhazard, if your fish turns out to be a female, we should try to breed ours together, as they are so similar.

I agree though, in that last shot it looks kind of parroty. a lil notch there maybe?
but its parents still could be midevils....
nice pearling on the tail, usually a parroty trait, but I have a labiatus devil with the same... hmm..

Thanks, and I think it's male, all the cichlids are together and the breeding tube looks male to me.

It may turn out that my female KKP is the only female in the tank, then I'll have trouble.
 
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