ID Please.....Red Dat?

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JD_MAN

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I was told that this is a red dat, but can't find anything on them. It seems like it is some type of perch.

Here is a pic of the first night that I had him.....

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Close up.....

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Another...

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My pics kind of suck and don't show his color very well.

He is about 10" TL right now.
 
Mangrove snapper. Often collected along with datnoids they are commonly mistaken for datnoids. they will get around 4 feet and are extremely aggressive. They can be kept in freshwater when young but when older will need close to pure salt.

Tanner
 
Oddball;540478; said:
Alot of stores try selling these fish as dats. They're called the Mangrove Jacks (Lutjanus argentimaculatus)

Yah, I've seen a few places selling them as that along with their thinbars. What better way to join the "dat" craze? :yikes:
 
bichir addict;540480; said:
Often collected along with datnoids

Do these occur in the same place as dats? I thought these were aussie.
 
It's unfortunate that wholesalers label Lutjanus argentimaculatus by the name "red datnoid" rather than their more common names of "mangrove jack" or "mangrove snapper." They are very cool fish in their own right that don't need to be associated with dats in order to be sold. They do, however, get rather large (1 meter) and prefer strong BW to full SW conditions as adults.
 
just because a fish is typically found in salt water as an adult, does not in any way, physiologically, dictate, or have been scientifically proven to "need" salt water! :nilly:
 
fugupuff;540687; said:
just because a fish is typically found in salt water as an adult, does not in any way, physiologically, dictate, or have been scientifically proven to "need" salt water! :nilly:

When I was still living in Australia ,I had kept at least 10 or more over the years and every single fish that I had that I tried to raise in fresh water eventually died. However, fish caught from the same area at the same time did very well in my full salt water set up and I got one of my fish to be quite big (around 30"). So can you back your statement up with scientific proof? These fish need salt water.
 
bichir addict;540480; said:
Mangrove snapper. Often collected along with datnoids they are commonly mistaken for datnoids. they will get around 4 feet and are extremely aggressive. They can be kept in freshwater when young but when older will need close to pure salt.

Tanner

come on tanner, whens the last time you saw a 4 footer mangrove???:eek:
the biggest ive seen was about 2foot. very mean and great table fare.
 
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