ID these bluegill please

[drewish]

awesome. Aren't longears illegal to keep since they are endangered??

And if you don't want your gillies, I'll be happy to take em

They are not federally protected or endangered.

From a quick search, they are threatened in WI and NY and endangered in PA.

 

[ROSS]

both those fish belong to the SUNFISH FAMILLY .. witch is also part of the panfish familly witch include's yellow perch , crappie , bullhead catfish .. walleye and white perch are not part of this familly..

the fist fish is a bluegill , the blue dot or gill extension is were it's name comes from...

the second fish is called a PUMKIN SEED another type of SUNFISH ..

there are many types of sunfish EX: red ear , red breast , pumkin seed , blue gill all cross breed ..

crappie and sunfish do cross breed but not to commonly heard of it's possible they are very similar . put it to you this way if a managuense(jaguar) and a convict cichlid breed together then a blue gill and a crappie should have no problem gettin it on ..

 

[drewish]

:lipsseale

 

[Skipjack]

Actually there are no photos on this thread of a Pumpkinseed sunfish. Longear sunfish are often locally called pumpkinseeds though.

 

[teleost]

Crappie, Pomoxis
Bluegill, lepomis

 

[Fishyfan]

ok well do you think they would get along with goldfish and minnows in my pond? Would they decimate the minnow population?

 

[sandtiger]

ok well do you think they would get along with goldfish and minnows in my pond? Would they decimate the minnow population?

Larger goldfish would probably be alright, any smaller minnows will probably be killed or eaten.

 

[sandtiger]

Crappie, Pomoxis
Bluegill, lepomis

In all fareness that doesn't really mean anything. I agree that bluegil and crappie CANNOT cross but just because we put them in a different genus does not make it so. There are many examples of cross-genus fish out there. A convict cichlid can cross with a firemouth. Convicts belong to the Archocentrus genus and firemouths to Thorichthys.

 

[Fishyfan]

Larger goldfish would probably be alright, any smaller minnows will probably be killed or eaten.

all of the goldfish are 6"+ so they'd be ok right? but i dont want to put the bluegill in the pond if they are going to eat all of the minnows because we dont want mosquitos...

 

[sandtiger]

both those fish belong to the SUNFISH FAMILLY .. witch is also part of the panfish familly witch include's yellow perch , crappie , bullhead catfish .. walleye and white perch are not part of this familly..

the fist fish is a bluegill , the blue dot or gill extension is were it's name comes from...

the second fish is called a PUMKIN SEED another type of SUNFISH ..

there are many types of sunfish EX: red ear , red breast , pumkin seed , blue gill all cross breed ..

crappie and sunfish do cross breed but not to commonly heard of it's possible they are very similar . put it to you this way if a managuense(jaguar) and a convict cichlid breed together then a blue gill and a crappie should have no problem gettin it on ..

There is no "panfish" family, it's a term fishermen use to catagorize pan-sized fishes, it has no place in scientific classification. Yellow perch and walleye belong to the perch family (Perchidae) along with darters. Bluegill, crappie and other sunfishes, including largemouths smallmouths and other black basses all belong to the sunfish family (Centrarchidae). Bullhead catfish belong to the North American bullhead catfish family (Ictaluridae) along with channel catfish, flatheads, madtoms and others. White perch belong to the temperate bass family (Moronidae) along with striped bass, white bass and yellow bass.

All the fish on the first page of this thread are bluegill, the black spot on the soft spot of the dorsal fin is the biggest give away. All bluegill with have this in life or death. Green sunfish also have a black spot on their dorsal but they also have one on the anal (bluegills don't) and their facial structure is completely different from any bluegill or lepomis for that matter (the genus that greens, bluegill, pumpkinseed, longears and many sunfish belong to). All the fish in the second series of pictures are longear sunfish.

Crappie and bluegill cannot breed, at least not to anyones knowledge. It's very unlikely that they can.

I hope I am not coming off as arrogant, or a know-it-all but I just felt the need to correct the information. Fish and their taxonomy are confusing as it is.