ID this Gar Please
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So i have been reading that processed food is better for them than live feeders. Is this a matter of opinion or fact? Thanks again for the quick ID.
fact, feeders might hold loads of diseases that could harm yr fish, the only sure way to prevent this is to quarintine them. also goldfish have a vitamin B destroying enzyme and a backbone, which sometimes harm the fish. prepared foods are also way cheaper.
sam.miller13@yahoo.com;1545368; said:
Prepared and frozen foods are better for captive gars due to the fact it allows for a much more diverse selection of available items. A singular diet of "feeders" is not nutritionally complex enough to provide the fish with all essential nutritional requirements. Live foods can be a component of the diet but should never be the only food source. In general LFS bought "feeders" are also toxic messes often loaded with anti-biotics and copper content. Neither of these is good for a fish such as a Lepisosteid.
xander13;1545376; said:
all feeder fish have a backbone, and this is not the issue with goldfish. its the enzyme, unhealthy conditions, parasites, and the modified first dorsal ray/anal ray.
as for tank sizes, jordan brought up a good point...i would suggest being a little slower on the draw for tank size criticisms until you yourself get an upgrade for your fish--
--solomon
I would suggest being very slow on this when it comes to Lepisosteids. (Which is why I rarely mention tank size in any gar thread and never quickly criticize tank size)
A lot of the suggestions for tank sizes of these fish is very much not taking into account the fish it's self but a generalized "rule" that is not at all applicable under all conditions and in every circumstance. It is good to mention what we know of an educated standard for typical circumstance but this should never be taken as concrete for all fish.. A key aspect of keeping Lepisosteids is knowing the individual fish in your possession and reacting accordingly on everything from tankmates to tank size on that fishes individual traits and demeanor... Nothing is in stone here and nothing is typical in every condition. It is good to recognize these fish are very flexible to a variety of conditions. This does not mean certain specific rules do not apply to husbandry on a species basis, they do, but it does mean that you need to take every circumstance and every individual fish into consideration to this and remain elastic in general as far as these fish go.
That's a very nice gar you have. Keep us updated on his growth. I have a couple in my 15k but never got any size to them. They (Lepisosteus oculatus)
are only about 16 inches and I've had one of them for 7 years and the other for 9 years. You can see them in the video of the 15k near the end of the second one (2/5) with a 24'+ longnose gar eating floating trout pellets.
are only about 16 inches and I've had one of them for 7 years and the other for 9 years. You can see them in the video of the 15k near the end of the second one (2/5) with a 24'+ longnose gar eating floating trout pellets.
Wow, glad to have sparked all this discussion. Tankmates were mentioned, and I'd like for you to expound on that, considering the following; Right now his only tankmate is a 6 inch Four-Line Pimodella Catfish. So far the Gar hasn't touched him(that I can tell). I have a 7" Clown Knife in another tank, and I'd like to put him in with the 4-line and the Gar, but I don't know if it's such a good idea considering the size of the knife in relation to the Gar, however the gar hasn't messed with the cat, and they [Cat and Knife] are both about the same size. Advice and suggestions?
Also, all I have in the way of prepared foods are frozen bloodworms, freeze drid tubifex worms and freeze dried medley. Are any of these foods suitable for my fish? He doesn't seem to go for any of them when I feed the catfish whom he shares the tank with.
Thanks all.
Oh, he ate a dozen goldfish in < 48 hours the first time I fed him.
Also, all I have in the way of prepared foods are frozen bloodworms, freeze drid tubifex worms and freeze dried medley. Are any of these foods suitable for my fish? He doesn't seem to go for any of them when I feed the catfish whom he shares the tank with.
Thanks all.
Oh, he ate a dozen goldfish in < 48 hours the first time I fed him.
sam.miller13@yahoo.com;1547788; said:
I am sure lots of MFK members can give you advice on what to feed.
In the video you will see more than 30 different species of fish I keep with mine and you will see the longnose eating floating trout pellets. Mine also are fed smelts, mackeral, trout, shrimps and salmon. They get floating Koi, trout and 9mm growth pellets as well
Here are a few of the fish in their tank check the viseo for the rest
