ID White Cichlid Please...

[jgentry]

wow Ken, so much for not deraialing my thread.

i was just asking for an ID and it seems like everyone is still uncertain...

I thought i did a good cause and saved these fish. in yours eyes, i should feed them to my ray.


so again is this a parrot x pink convict or just a pink convict? i see both traits of fish...

BTW they seem healthy to me. swim normally, eat normally, and are active and not aggressive to each other or tank mates. no signs of swim bladder problems. and if the orange patches or females then there are 4f and 2M. one pair already courting...

ken, you ever see ugly parents have good looking offsprings? or good looking parents having ugly offsprings? it happens to humans and to other species....so why not let them breed by "natural selection" instead of you selecting? never know these ofsprings could be better than any of your "selective breeding" style batches...

They look like selectively bred short bodied pink cons to me. I don't think they are a hybrid.

As far as breeding them, there is nothing close to natural selection in an aquarium. In the wild only the strongest and sometimes luckiest survive. You only see a fish like this rarely in the wild because they are generally slower and easier targets. They are often slower growing and weaker as well. These fish are generally selected by humans trying to breed them to be short bodied, so most likely you will get some short bodied fry. I have no idea what percentage that would be. I'm guessing it would be a pretty high percentage though. Everytime you try to breed a fish with genetic deformities you end up with a higher percentage of fry with those traits. That's why breeders don't use them. They want the highest percentage of good fry as possible. They don't want to have to cull half the batch. That is why to best fish are selected for breeding. I realize that different people will have different opinions on what is the best. For me I go buy what a top wild speciman would look like if I cannot find a wild one for breeding.

Like I said, different people like different htings. As long as you like the fish that is all that matters.

 

[Laosy Fish]

looked like parrots to me :S

I agree with tat...how can you tell me that they dont have some parrots traits in them...looks... now i'm not saying that they have parrot in them as i would not know for sure, but they do have similarities of a juvie Parrot..IMO

 

[Laosy Fish]

They look like selectively bred short bodied pink cons to me. I don't think they are a hybrid.

As far as breeding them, there is nothing close to natural selection in an aquarium. In the wild only the strongest and sometimes luckiest survive. You only see a fish like this rarely in the wild because they are generally slower and easier targets. They are often slower growing and weaker as well. These fish are generally selected by humans trying to breed them to be short bodied, so most likely you will get some short bodied fry. I have no idea what percentage that would be. I'm guessing it would be a pretty high percentage though. Everytime you try to breed a fish with genetic deformities you end up with a higher percentage of fry with those traits. That's why breeders don't use them. They want the highest percentage of good fry as possible. They don't want to have to cull half the batch. That is why to best fish are selected for breeding. I realize that different people will have different opinions on what is the best. For me I go buy what a top wild speciman would look like if I cannot find a wild one for breeding.

Like I said, different people like different htings. As long as you like the fish that is all that matters.

very true and agreed...

jus never seen them before and IMO i think they are cool looking. I'm not looking to capitolize on this fish and it's rarity. I jus think they are cool looking..seems like the midwest and east are starting to get flooded with these guys...

BTW, Male parrots can breed, I've seen it with true and KKP...

 

[jgentry]

They could be a hybrid. I'm not really familiar with them to say for sure. I have never personally seen them offered. Plus when cons hybridize the fry often take a lot of the con traits so sometimes it is hard to be for sure. From what I have read the short bodied and ballon ones are not hybrids though. I think you will be able to tell for sure in a few months as they grow. I still think they are short bodied pink cons though.

Time will tell.