I am in the process of doing a write up to add to the Payara guide that Xanders doing..... I need DETAILED info from those of you out there that have trained your payara (ANY species) onto non-live food. I want to try all the different methods and compare them to see if we can't come up with a way that seems to work best. I have 5 stubborn lil Armati (proper plural??) and I figured this is the perfect opportunity to try the different means of breaking them. So far I have them looking and inquiring but not yet "charging" I'm throwing krill into the H.O.B. filter outputs, and fishing with smelt. Any ideas??? Chalk em up here!!!! Lets all put our heads together here and break these things......
If you have broken Payara (Off live) PLEASE READ...
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DB junkie;2054615; said:
Here I go again with my Aro as a teacher. I had 3 9" Tats that were bought on live foods. In about 2 months I had them snapping at market shrimp. I had the Silver Aro (about 10"??) already on market shrimp before I added him to the tank. I purposly threw in the pcs were the tats were and as the fell by them the Aro would either drop his mouth and catch them next to the Tats or scoop them from the floor next to the Tats. Either way it went for the most part the Aro would eat the pcs in clear view for the Tats to see(I did starve the Tats fro 2 weeks before I added 1-2DZ max of 2-3" comets). I had to do major re-modeling at my house so I gave the fish to All-Happy aquarium where he added them with a black Aro and within the next 2 days he had them on market shrimp along with a 10" Tigrinus and some other species that he had some trouble getting off live foods (tigrinus). By the following week everything in the tank including the 3pcs of Tats were on 100% market shrimp.
I seriously believe that aros are the best teachers as they eat and close their mouth slowly. And enough time to show a stuborn fish to eat.
JMO
Also I believe Jlgnygen74 (sorry for spelling
) now owns the 3 market eating Tats
My 6" Tat took prepared food pretty easily, after about a week of him watching all the other fish take Market shrimp and silver sides, he followed suit. He even sampled the turkey hotdogs that were for my pbass. So i think hunger and observation may be a key. I've had similar luck with dats this way.
West1;2054697; said:Here I go again with my Aro as a teacher. I had 3 9" Tats that were bought on live foods. In about 2 months I had them snapping at market shrimp. I had the Silver Aro (about 10"??) already on market shrimp before I added him to the tank. I purposly threw in the pcs were the tats were and as the fell by them the Aro would either drop his mouth and catch them next to the Tats or scoop them from the floor next to the Tats. Either way it went for the most part the Aro would eat the pcs in clear view for the Tats to see(I did starve the Tats fro 2 weeks before I added 1-2DZ max of 2-3" comets). I had to do major re-modeling at my house so I gave the fish to All-Happy aquarium where he added them with a black Aro and within the next 2 days he had them on market shrimp along with a 10" Tigrinus and some other species that he had some trouble getting off live foods (tigrinus). By the following week everything in the tank including the 3pcs of Tats were on 100% market shrimp.
I seriously believe that aros are the best teachers as they eat and close their mouth slowly. And enough time to show a stuborn fish to eat.
JMO
Also I believe Jlgnygen74 (sorry for spelling
Only two
Payara eats non-live food whenever they want to. You can use the method "Monkey see, monkey do," but that "monkey" only do whenever it wants to And people were giving me shibby about having to have a "teacher" fish......LMAO. I think my exit from the live food world started with a Moray...lol. Moray taught the dat that taught the Rhaph that taught all my Payara (another Rhaph, 5 Tats, 2 Scombs, and an Armatus) I'm hoping I don't have to fish him out of the pond to teach the Armatus a thing or well hopefully just to eat................ I am more curious about the other methods..... I do firmly believe that straight up starving then throwing in unrecognized food is just going to lead to a dead fish......How is it supposed to know what to eat if it's not recognized as food?
DB junkie;2055030; said:I believe so..... Don't make me dig up the thread!!!
Alright, alright... you did. I think I remember your avartar...
back to the topic.
Info pls.......... I want to know if my fish can go both ways
Teacher fish and another option pls