If you use a Python Water Change system, then I have a question for you..

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oscaroo said:
I highly doubt raw tap water will kill all the bb... It would probibly kill some but not all. Lucky me beacause I use well water and I don't need declorenater...
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You are right.. lucky you with well water. But for most people de-chlor is important. You can smell the chlorine in my city water it's so strong.
 
aclockworkorange said:
"Raw" tap water can kill all your fish, depending on your water source. Read.


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I swear this thread could have only had 3 posts.
1: original post
2: your post answering all the questions possible
3: op thanking you.

Instead it's laced with misinformation, random opinions and needless worrying.
 
ElectricBlueSeanBurch said:
I swear this thread could have only had 3 posts.
1: original post
2: your post answering all the questions possible
3: op thanking you.

Instead it's laced with misinformation, random opinions and needless worrying.
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misinformation? I believe people were giving voice to their experiences and habits? where's the misinformation?

random opinions? how is it random if the opinions were relating to the post?

needless worrying? I believe a lot of the posts were informative and reassuring?

my opinion is that this forum is to share views and ideas. as such I believe the only unnecessary post is yours!

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oscaroo said:
IMO it depends on fish species but discus would probibly die in a highly clorinated sourse but a guppy or oscar would probibly not...
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That's why they call it an opinion I guess... Everyone has one. A high level of chlorine is toxic to any species. It was even used in gas form during WWI as a chemical weapon...


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Redearsunfish said:
I'm debating going to this system as my back is starting to give with this bucket system.

But tell me this. When the heck do you put the dechlorinator in? How can it mix well enough if you just dump it in the tank? I don't get it.

Help me out here..
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Prime is reasonably priced, and a little goes a very long way. I have always read the recommendation to dose the entire tank. On my 300 gallon tank, that equates to three capfuls. The gallon of Prime I have has lasted for years. It's been seven years since I've used a Python, but when we did, it was very easy--we just added the Prime where the water was streaming back into the tank when we refilled via the Python. There was no doubt in my mind that the Prime was getting mixed. Now, we have such a strong current in our 300 gallon tank, that we just dump the Prime any where in the tank. We pump the water back in via a Hammerhead pump, and the water is turbulent. I just don't dump it on one of the fish.
 
pacu mom said:
Prime is reasonably priced, and a little goes a very long way. I have always read the recommendation to dose the entire tank. On my 300 gallon tank, that equates to three capfuls. The gallon of Prime I have has lasted for years. It's been seven years since I've used a Python, but when we did, it was very easy--we just added the Prime where the water was streaming back into the tank when we refilled via the Python. There was no doubt in my mind that the Prime was getting mixed. Now, we have such a strong current in our 300 gallon tank, that we just dump the Prime any where in the tank. We pump the water back in via a Hammerhead pump, and the water is turbulent. I just don't dump it on one of the fish.
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I'm with you on this. I see no danger in adding fresh water because the chemicals which render the chlorine safe for fish are already in the water and the chlorine is converted as it's added.

As to the addition on the prime(or in my case API) I share your concerns. I have dumped the capfuls in and seen a fish swim right into the cloud thinking it was food or something. Whether warranted or not, that concerned me and now I do one of the following:


  • Pour chems into a large cup and premix and evenly distribute across surface of the tank (to best effort..)
  • Pour out slowly and only where no fish are nearby
  • Slowly pour in by filter outlet to ensure quick dispersion.
 
oscaroo said:
IMO it depends on fish species but discus would probibly die in a highly clorinated sourse but a guppy or oscar would probibly not...
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I would suggest experimenting with your fish and letting us know. :)

I'm kidding of course, and it's not really up for debate. Chlorine IS poison to fish, and it is in tap water in a whole spectrum of concentrations depending on area and water district. Please don't take this wrong, but you have a special case with well water and are fortunate. You should not however advocate the use of straight tap water unless people know how to remove the toxic chemicals by other means. You must understand that what works for you is the exception, not the rule.
 
I just stick a hose into the tank, and one end down a drain pipe and let the water siphon out that way... Same principle really...

Then fill the tank back up using the same hose attached to the faucet or something...


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