wait for the hating comments to commence "What a waste of a tank"
LOL.....it's coming, get ready for it
I'm not happy with any of my tanks
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imo you can enjoy smaller fish as much as the big ones...in the past month or so I was forced to break down my 90; so my friend has my cichlids. In my house I now have white clouds, and some cories in a hospital tank and thats it.
I'm actually enjoying the white cloud minnows, more than I did my cichlids tbh...because even though they're in a 60 litre long tank, they have quite literally 43x body length swimming room; and don't look constrained in the slightest.
I don't know if its something you're interested in, but planted tanks have recently really re-ignited my interest in the hobby...for once the fish are actually kind of secondary to the needs of the plants, but makes for a real challenge balancing everything. Plus side is that you can totally enjoy these smaller set-ups too, I recently bought a 15 litre cube and can't wait to start it; 6 months ago I'd have laughed if someone offered me that
imo you can enjoy smaller fish as much as the big ones...in the past month or so I was forced to break down my 90; so my friend has my cichlids. In my house I now have white clouds, and some cories in a hospital tank and thats it.
I'm actually enjoying the white cloud minnows, more than I did my cichlids tbh...because even though they're in a 60 litre long tank, they have quite literally 43x body length swimming room; and don't look constrained in the slightest.
I don't know if its something you're interested in, but planted tanks have recently really re-ignited my interest in the hobby...for once the fish are actually kind of secondary to the needs of the plants, but makes for a real challenge balancing everything. Plus side is that you can totally enjoy these smaller set-ups too, I recently bought a 15 litre cube and can't wait to start it; 6 months ago I'd have laughed if someone offered me that
I too wished that I would've waited to buy a 180g instead of my 135g but the deal was good so I jumped on it. I moved a lot of stock around and as of right now I have 20 tiger barbs, 4 geophagus, 2 Pimelodus blochii, and 4 rapheal cats in the 135g. Even I think my tank is too small for them.
this is morbidly true, irony at its finest as a fishkeeper trying to do whats best for an animal...
It's all in your head, ehh. A midevil flying solo in a 75 isn't going to become emotionally enhanced by upgrading to a tank a foot longer. (125) You might, but the fish won't.
I'm late to this, but I have my own rule. "Minimum" of 10 gallons of space per inch of adult cichlid (not per fish in a tank) or any good size fish, I mean a 10 inch fish, whether 1 or 3 fish, require "minimum 100 gallons.
Of course it is true that a 10" oscar will "survive" a while in a 75 gal tank. But will it act like a normal fish? I doubt it. When I see posts by those who complain there fish is lethargic, acting weird, or paranoid, the tank is almost always way too small.
I followed a 12" uropthalmus across a 100 yard cenote, and could barely keep up, and yet the fish was not laboring, just aimlessly passing thru.
Whenever I see someone recommending a 75 gal for an adult oscar, or jag, or any substantial cichlid, I realize they really have never watched these fish in nature.
And using the criteria that if a fish can turn around in a tank, it is then of adequate size for that fish to live, is to me equally ridiculous. A great dane can comfortably turn around in a small bedroom, but would you keep it in one 24/7.
I attended a lecture by one of the most respected experts on fresh water rays not long ago, who spends time studying them in S America, she said nothing under 300 gallons for the smallest rays.
Below, one of the small cenotes
Of course it is true that a 10" oscar will "survive" a while in a 75 gal tank. But will it act like a normal fish? I doubt it. When I see posts by those who complain there fish is lethargic, acting weird, or paranoid, the tank is almost always way too small.
I followed a 12" uropthalmus across a 100 yard cenote, and could barely keep up, and yet the fish was not laboring, just aimlessly passing thru.
Whenever I see someone recommending a 75 gal for an adult oscar, or jag, or any substantial cichlid, I realize they really have never watched these fish in nature.
And using the criteria that if a fish can turn around in a tank, it is then of adequate size for that fish to live, is to me equally ridiculous. A great dane can comfortably turn around in a small bedroom, but would you keep it in one 24/7.
I attended a lecture by one of the most respected experts on fresh water rays not long ago, who spends time studying them in S America, she said nothing under 300 gallons for the smallest rays.
Below, one of the small cenotes
100% agree with this! My wife doesn't get how I love them so much but their is some special bond and I go out of my way to make sure they're doing well.I'm late to this, but I have my own rule. "Minimum" of 10 gallons of space per inch of adult cichlid (not per fish in a tank) or any good size fish, I mean a 10 inch fish, whether 1 or 3 fish, require "minimum 100 gallons.
Of course it is true that a 10" oscar will "survive" a while in a 75 gal tank. But will it act like a normal fish? I doubt it. When I see posts by those who complain there fish is lethargic, acting weird, or paranoid, the tank is almost always way too small.
I followed a 12" uropthalmus across a 100 yard cenote, and could barely keep up, and yet the fish was not laboring, just aimlessly passing thru.
Whenever I see someone recommending a 75 gal for an adult oscar, or jag, or any substantial cichlid, I realize they really have never watched these fish in nature.
And using the criteria that if a fish can turn around in a tank, it is then of adequate size for that fish to live, is to me equally ridiculous. A great dane can comfortably turn around in a small bedroom, but would you keep it in one 24/7.
I attended a lecture by one of the most respected experts on fresh water rays not long ago, who spends time studying them in S America, she said nothing under 300 gallons for the smallest rays.
Below, one of the small cenotes
The best part is she thinks my fish are cheap...lol
