lol, missed a few questions. I just moved yet again, I now own a house here in montana. The pond has been moved to the garage. The heater size when it was outside was 2 500w titanium heaters. With all the insulation they hardly every ran, even when the wind chills were -45 f. Now I have the top off in the garage and the big boy is doing fine. He has ate about 8 lbs. of pompano and shrimp in the past month. I am going to get him some white suckers when I get home from work to eat and chase for enrichment. The other catfish including the plecostumus that was in his tank with him all died while upgrading the pond. I had the two smaller hybrids in a seperate tub with the pleco while I was doin the upgrades. I had the big boy on a seperate circuit breaker and one night when it was really cold somehow the circuit breaker tripped, but the big boy's didn't. All but the pleco in the other tank died. The filters that I had on their temporary tanks also froze that night. I put the pleco in with the big boy. The water in the tank I took him out of had ice on top and the temp at the bottom of the tank was around 38 degrees F. The big boy's temp was 56 that night. I don't know how those two didn't die. I put an extra heater in with them and that tub held at 80 f. Since they were in smaller tubs no one was eating and I believe the pleco died of malnutrition. My big fish was in horrible shape for the first month he was back in his pond, but now is healthier than ever. Why all that stuff I did you ask. All because my landlord at the time said I had to. After the fish died I decided that I needed to move and just get a place of my own so that I could have the freedome to do what I want with my fish dreams. Now the pond has the rocks in it again, plus some nice rocky sand on the bottom for substrate. He went nuts when I put him back in. I only had to do 2 days of upgrades this time so he wasn't as stressed as last time. I will add some new pics when I get home from work. Tnx for all the compliments and feedback.