well i suppose i can come to the meet but i dont know anything about it really. someone can come get it now if they want. it is attached to the slate but not well because i took a couple screws out. it does not sink just yet or the slate would be out of there. its a huge slate that had other pieces that i took off. i tried to break it but it didnt work and might even need a grinder or a good chisel and hammer.