Yeah sorry, I have 7 tanks set up as of yesterday so I have some idea of what I am doing, after watching the river monsters episode and doing some research I now realize even thinking of getting a gar is out of question. Would a 2000L ply/acrylic tank be okay to house him for life or is that pushing it? No they are not all in one tank, yesterday I moved my hoplos (one is also trying to build a nest as I have a breeding group, wahey!) convicts and my clown into a fresh 100L. Giving everybody in my 340 a bit more room. Ammonia and nitrite are 0 although I have to do a weekly 30/40% water change to keep it that way and nitrate is 35, I have a 1500l/per hour and 2 double headed sponge filters at each end so it is well maintained. Also, I cannot find how big tin foils max out at, do you have any idea? Every video I see of fully grown ones suggest mine wont get much bigger but I doubt that, biggest is 8inch at the mo. Sayersweb your brave is it common to be able to keep a shoal with them? Thanks Abby I specially built a glass top for him a few days before he came and its very thick. Its even been tested with my gas pistol, I am not worried lol. THQ I appreciate your concern its kinda reassuring judging some of the facebook groups I have seen. I would love to keep bluegill, they are such fun little fish. They are highly illegal in the UK because of people like me. Id be filling ponds up left right and center, more interesting than damn common carp! We cant even bowhunt them here. It sucks lol