Is anyone else a little annoyed with Eheim?
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I just bought 2 2028s. They came with media and the new modular intake/spraybars. The green tubing doesn't bother me much but I suspect the real reason it's used is so the bacterial slime that accumulates in them isn't really noticed so much. The filter being green is probably trademark/historical at this point. There may be some traditional planted tank hides it kind of thing going on.
Something that Eheim does that annoys me more is that a lot of their filters cost an arm and a leg, and then if you want their media you give them the other arm or leg for their media kit to fill it. It's hard to enjoy their stuff when you only have one limb left.
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Something that Eheim does that annoys me more is that a lot of their filters cost an arm and a leg, and then if you want their media you give them the other arm or leg for their media kit to fill it. It's hard to enjoy their stuff when you only have one limb left.
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chefjamesscott;3187086; said:WOW you are dating a whole country you must be busy
Yes... its true... I am a busy man trying to keep up with 82,369,522 people!
HarleyK;3188718; said:The sky is blue.
Ferraris are red.
Eheims are green.
It's that easy
I would buy a black Ferrari... but if I had the cash I would prefer a black Lamborghini
shoggoth43;3188800; said:I just bought 2 2028s. They came with media and the new modular intake/spraybars. The green tubing doesn't bother me much but I suspect the real reason it's used is so the bacterial slime that accumulates in them isn't really noticed so much. The filter being green is probably trademark/historical at this point. There may be some traditional planted tank hides it kind of thing going on.
Something that Eheim does that annoys me more is that a lot of their filters cost an arm and a leg, and then if you want their media you give them the other arm or leg for their media kit to fill it. It's hard to enjoy their stuff when you only have one limb left.
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Yeah, I am in total agreement with the pricing of the Eheim Products - Filters and Filter Media. However, even at a premium alot of us fork out the money for quality, and Eheim does know how to deliver in terms of quality and functionality!
1) its just there look. eheim is quality so it can be a lil different, much like ada(aqua design amano) is all glass, and apple(computers) tries to have a sleek look.
2) probably most of the people that buy ehiem have heavily planted tanks. because ehiem more then the competition and most people willing to spend that much money are usually attempting to create a artwork fish tank and are willing to pay big money for there filtration to be just as nice. really canister filters are the preferred filtration for co2 injected tanks. i just dont see a top of the line canister being commonly used for any tank other then a co2 injected planted tank.
salt tanks need high oxygenation, so wet dry or skimmer(canisters use oxygen in the water column)
most monster tanks would probably use a wet dry since its cheaper and a huge chunks of waste or food would probably warrant frequent maitnence for canisters, with most canisters maintence is a pain
with smaller fish i dont see alot of people buying a very expensive canister for relatively cheap fish.
2) probably most of the people that buy ehiem have heavily planted tanks. because ehiem more then the competition and most people willing to spend that much money are usually attempting to create a artwork fish tank and are willing to pay big money for there filtration to be just as nice. really canister filters are the preferred filtration for co2 injected tanks. i just dont see a top of the line canister being commonly used for any tank other then a co2 injected planted tank.
salt tanks need high oxygenation, so wet dry or skimmer(canisters use oxygen in the water column)
most monster tanks would probably use a wet dry since its cheaper and a huge chunks of waste or food would probably warrant frequent maitnence for canisters, with most canisters maintence is a pain
with smaller fish i dont see alot of people buying a very expensive canister for relatively cheap fish.
chefjamesscott;3187083; said:
Ok guys, simple science here.
Most fish may have the ability to see in color, however, ALL fish have cones specifically for ultraviolet. The reason for this is because UV light penetrates water at depths FAR and away greater than the visible spectrum as well as being able to permeate even the most filthy or muddy waters. There have been multiple studies run attempting to determine what colors fish react to however, when it came to color only one delimiting marker has been found. The more UV reflective an item is, the greater the chance a fish will give it a bite to find out if it's edible.
A very simple way to test this is to get a UV scope, (some places rent them cheaply) and train it on your fish. If you look at Oscars for example mated pairs typically have very similar marking under UV, while their aggresion targets are very dissimilar. Scientists have tested the response of fish to different patterns and intensities of UV. This is half the reason for the expense of top end fishing lures. They're specifically made to emulate a bait fish in motion, and in UV.
Now I'm not saying this is an exclusive trait, or that fish don't use color at all, however, the color of your Eheim tubing is absolutely irrelevant to your fish. So going with the argument at hand, Fish cannot tell what color your filter intake or exhaust is, nor do they care, so in turn, I don't care what color is supplied with Eheim products.
As for the flake food, you very well could have different levels of UV reflectivity in the dye of the food.
As for looking through an animals eyes, we've hooked their brains up to neurometers and measured their brain activity in response to color stimuli as well as UV, touch, smell, etc. That's as close as you can get.
References and eratta:
http://books.google.com/books?id=45...0p2GCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4
http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/uv-lights-up-marine-fish/2
http://www.springerlink.com/content/gv184g852636125r/
http://www.biology.duke.edu/johnsenlab/research/UV.html
Sorry, I just like to get the facts of these discussions out. In this hobby there's a lot of speculation that's just off the wall. This discussion didn't necessarily merit the TLDR though. My apologies.
