Mbuna cichlid do fine with angels and parrots. Why wouldnt they?
Is Fatherfish trying to form a cult lol
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No dude, just because they have 100% WCs in the wild doesn’t mean they need that in the aquarium. But they do need extremely low nitrates, not that 500ppm that your hero, Fatherfish said is good. Seriously though, why are you here? You just joined and all you’re doing is trying to argue with people that have been in the hobby longer than you’ve been alive.
I dont believe 500ppm has been claimed, ever. Also i have been keeping fish since the 80s and alive even longer.
He literally said 500ppm in one of his videos. I’ve been doing this since the mid 80s as well
Ok i think you are referring to this video. In which case i think you need to watch it again. He said a biologist did a study and found that the majority of fish didnt have a reaction to nitrate levels until 500ppm although some did around 450ppm but that it is also not able to happen outside of a lab......
It may be this video, I don’t remember. But either way that biologist is a fraud if they’re basing the effects of nitrates on a test like that. The effects are cumulative over time and shorten lifespans, reduce growth and lead to disease. I do 80% WC on my rift tank evey 3 days and I haven’t had a case of bloat in over a year, they’re all colored up and growing quickly by riftie standards
Ok i havent done a water change in over 6 years and have had zero issues with disease of any kind. In fact i have otocinclus breeding in one of my tanks and a colony of shrimp breeding in another and both need pretty clean water conditions. Neither of our tanks were at 500 ppm though so comparing what we do at home to a lab setting experiment isnt equivalent
But I’m sure you have an abundance of plants which isn’t always possible. Have you tested your nitrates? If so what are they? Mine never get over 20ppm and are usually below 10 except maybe when it’s getting close to the 3 day mark which is why I’m on that schedule. I’m also hoping your not suggesting that a heavily planted tank with a deep dirt substrate with sand on top is good for rift cichlids.
My nitrates never top 25ppm
I just top off my tanks daily. Takes about 7 gallons for all my tanks over a week period. I only use tap water.
And in the wild rift cichlids are found in sand flats and weed beds as well.
Lol, it's good to hear that you didn't start keeping fish before you were born...although the 80's ended almost 34 years ago, and your profile states you are 35, so you sure as hell didn't wait too long to start. Earlier in this thread you stated you had been keeping fish for almost 40 years. And of course you sound as though you are about 12, so...you are becoming more and more difficult to take seriously.
The idea about growth-inhibiting substances being produced by organisms is far from new, and it is not limited to aquarium fish. It's been discussed for decades, with endless evidence showing that many living things...both animals and plants...produce substances which are inimicable to the growth and health of those species. Normally, this would be a concern more typically in overcrowded conditions, but one of your tanks with fish living in the same disgusting soup of their own piss for years would be the ultimate expression of this. So the FF pokes around and manages to find one or two studies that say otherwise. Big deal; he absolutely must do that to keep the gravy train rolling, and frankly you can find evidence on the internet of literally anything, no matter how outlandish or ridiculous it may be, if you look diligently enough. You can't just pick the oddball studies and results that say what you want them to say, without considering the bulk of the others that all say the opposite.
You brag about nitrates never going above 25; many folks consider that completely unacceptable. I surely wouldn't be happy with it. The FF rants on and on about how everything in his tanks is all-natural...but we have a respected member here on MFK,
duanes
, who worked as a chemist in water treatment and who still tests water for fun now that he is retired. He has stated many times that he never finds any measurable nitrates in natural water bodies and flows. So...how can it be natural to have such high levels in your tank? And what is your water hardness like after years of constantly adding tap water?I give up; you can't remember how old you are, or what amount of experience you have, or even who you have insulted which way in this thread. You expect us to watch every one of the endless parade of cartoons your mentor puts out, because apparently all will be revealed only if we absorb every word of his wisdom.
Sorry, but it doesn't take that long to see him for what he is; same goes for you. So sit back, watch your angelfish playing with their mbuna buddies, and ask yourself...is there a chance that everybody else is right, and you are wrong?
Who knows? That might be one of those startling open-minded revelations that you admire so highly.
