Is KML the same as SRD? AND breeding questions!
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I'm pretty sure it would just be called a Kamfa FH x Red texas cross. Most hybrids don't tend to get their own name untill they have been established for years in the hobby. Lol kind of hard to just randomly name something especially if it's brand new.
Honestly tho this isn't all that uncommon of a cross tho. Red texas have started to become very popular for the last few years lately. That and almost anything that is bright red will sell faster then any other color, it's just human nature to be drawn towards bright eye catching colors.
Well can't say ya didn't get yourself some good looking FH's that's for sure lol. Personally I prefer the top one of the 2 the most. I kinda like how most of its pearling is in its fins rather then the body. Idky but it really reminds me of a African jewel cichlid in color.
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And here is the fish I’d like to create one day
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Again it would just be a SRT x SRM cross. Seems kind of counter productive to get that hybrid tho just due to the SRT already possibly containing SRM DNA. It's kind of along the same lines as if you were to cross a FH with a Veija or Trimac cichlid, they are both used to make FH's, so if ya use one to breed with a FH your just ending up with a FH that looks closer to how they originally started out like, just because you crossed it back with an ancestor. Some ppl do this on purpose however just to restrengthen certain genes that they are looking to recreate or expand upon.
How do you like this dream fish? Looks like a fader, but it is not. I was offered to bring it from Thailand 9 years ago. The price was over $ 1000.
Wow that's a ridiculously high price for just a juvi lol. I've seen fully grown adults that could go as high of not higher in price but never seen a juvi starting out at that price. Honestly doesn't seem worth it to me. I've seen some truly stunning juvi's for sale on aquabid that were 10x better looking and were also only asking ⅕ the price or less. Granted don't get me wrong. That is a beautiful FH, with it's coloration and finnage, but not $1000 beautiful. It does kinda look like a fader in a way but it looks closer to a Golden Base FH to me atleast. Lol I have a female ZZ Red Dragon fader atm and she doesn't even come close to the same kind of coloration. This is her btw her name is Star and she is currently a lil over 2 years old atm.
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As far as I understand, the price was grossly overpriced due to the new FH morph in 2012, the underdeveloped FH market in our region and problems with the logistics of pet supplies (veterinary and customs barriers). In Thailand, I was shown a photograph of a show-class kamfa femail that a Thai breeder bought in 2012 for $ 1400 at a show in Singapore. It's a pity the photo has not survived.
I could probably agree with you, but first let's try to identify the SRT and SRM genomes. According to the schemes presented on different resources, the SRT genome consists of: 6/8 GT + 1/8 Midas сichlid + 1/8 Vieja melanura. According to my hypothesis https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/super-red-monkey-diagram.732027/#post-8303171 the SRM genome consists of: 3/4 Vieja melanura + 1/4 Midas.
There is some valuable information about SRM here https://www.facebook.com/pg/byfhinside/posts/ , especially the comments on the video.
Let's try to combine the SRT and SRM genes (12/16 GT + 2/16 Midas + 2/16 Vieja melanura) + (12/16 Vieja melanura + 4/16 Midas) = 6/16 GT + 3/16 Midas + 7/16 Vieja melanura.
What will hybrids with such a set of genes from American cichlids look like? Will they be faders or not? Will they be show-grade fish or not?
Well I would imagine allot of terrible looking fry that ya would have to weed thru in order to find the hidden gems in the batch. Almost no mater what, any hybrid ya make is going to have that same problem. I would say it would be about a 80% chance of having an ugly hybrid vs a 20% chance at finding a beautiful one. Ya may even end up with some that look like one of the original parents as well, with no major visible differences.
I would imagine the fry to turn out allot like the texas in the end just due to them having the majority of their genes comprising of midas and Texas, which both have a very similar body structure. As for color that could be anybody's guess, I would imagine allot of Oranges and Greens from the texas and Veija gene's with maybe the odd Red or Tan one from the midas gene's. As for fader's well again that would be a toss up, I would imagine maybe 20% at most will end up with fader gene's. As for show grade quality I would imagine it at a 10% rate for every batch. Even show grade fish themselves won't put out many show grade offspring. It's all down to the genetic lottery.
