Is the end of our hobby?

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For Gods sake what is she trying to assess,the damage has already been done by non native creatures and in case she hasnt noticed,the damage has been put into action years ago and nothing has been able to reverse the effects of these animals.Looks like another hack politician trying to make a name for herself.Why can she imagine a proposal that actually does someone some good?
 
crenipterus svenagalus;2711004; said:
wow. im very sorry to hear that! i cant believe that. i cant begin to imagine how you deal with that being in this hobby.

Easy, you can't have fish tanks in prison!!! ;)
 
To much money involved for this to be passed. Think of all of the money the fed makes off of importing fish and liscensing for importers IMO
 
They would have to come and physically remove my stock. Would not give it up
voluntarily.
 
Modest_Man;2717418; said:
Did anybody even read any of what is being proposed or just spew forth crap off the top of their heads?

Section 3 article F.



It's a risk assessment process for gods sake, that's it. A process by which they can assess if a species is a risk. This Act doesn't do anything about banning any species.



Depends on how you interpret it...Risk assessment? Did you read the whole thing?





    • (a) Prohibitions- Except as provided in this section or in section 7, it is unlawful for any person subject to the jurisdiction of the United States to--
      • (1) import into or export from the United States any nonnative wildlife species that is not included in the list of approved species issued under section 4;
      • (2) transport between any State by any means whatsoever any nonnative wildlife species that is not included in the list of approved species issued under section 4;
      • (3) violate any term or condition of a permit issued under section 7;
      • (4) possess (except as provided in section 3(f)), sell or offer to sell, purchase or offer to purchase, or barter for or offer to barter for, any nonnative wildlife species that is prohibited from being imported under paragraph (1);
      • (5) release into the wild any nonnative wildlife species that is prohibited from being imported under paragraph (1); or
      • (6) breed any nonnative wildlife species that is prohibited from being imported under paragraph (1), or provide any such species to another person for breeding purposes.
    • (b) Penalties and Enforcement- Any person who violates subsection (a) shall be subject to the civil penalties and criminal penalties described in section 4 of the Lacey Act Amendments of 1981 (16 U.S.C. 3373). Sections 4(b), 4(e), 5, and 6 of that Act shall apply to such a violation in the same manner as they apply to a violation of that Act.
    • (c) Limitation on Application-
      • (1) IN GENERAL- The prohibitions in subsection (a) shall not apply to--
        • (A) any action by Federal, State, tribal, or local law enforcement personnel to enforce this section; and
        • (B) any action by Federal or State officials to prevent the introduction or establishment of nonnative wildlife species.
      • (2) IMPORTATION AND TRANSPORTATION BY FEDERAL AGENCIES- Nothing in this Act shall restrict the import or transportation between any States of nonnative wildlife species by a Federal agency for its own use, if the nonnative wildlife species remains in the possession of a Federal agency.
    • (d) Effective Date- This section shall take effect upon the publication of notice under section 3(e)(3).
    SEC. 7. PERMITS.
 
Modest_Man;2717418; said:
Did anybody even read any of what is being proposed or just spew forth crap off the top of their heads?

Section 3 article F.



It's a risk assessment process for gods sake, that's it. A process by which they can assess if a species is a risk. This Act doesn't do anything about banning any species.


My thoughs exactly, they're not trying to take away our fish.

READ THE ARTICLE! before you go crazy asking for people's heads and "touching" old representatives. :screwy:
 
This soo called risk assessment is where it starts(dont know whats being assessed,damage is already done)then comes the legislation banning pets.Its old representatives like this woman and lemmings like you who side with them is what is wrong with government.
 
LBathory;2710359; said:
there's too much money in this industry for the government to do something like this IMO.


Though your correct about the money and jobs,etc. Politicians are OWNED by special interest groups not the people.

The Humane society-PETA and few others have been trying to ban reptiles ,many types of fish,birds,etc for years . If nothing else make it very expensive to own them ESP reptiles.

I dont think they will do it but who knows.
 
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