Is there such a thing as too clean?

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BODYDUB;4303432; said:
Some people views on stuff really makes me wonder. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I use fish to cycle my tanks. If someone thinks it's barbaric then go to your local LPS and raise hell about their feeders.........

Local Pool Store. Gotcha. Will have to go to this location to get some feeders to CYCLE MY TANK.:D :grinno:
 
Each to their own. I was just shocked to see this practise still happening. Im here to research something for my own project & a fleeting stop over to say hello to japes. Realisiticly im not here to stick my nose in your business to start with.

V-out
 
Yes there can be too clean. If you use an RO/DI to filter your water, valuable nutrients will be missing from the water. This is good with saltwater, as long as the salt treatment has these chemicals in it. But, it is not good for freshwater.
 
Deepsouth;4305767; said:
Yes there can be too clean. If you use an RO/DI to filter your water, valuable nutrients will be missing from the water. This is good with saltwater, as long as the salt treatment has these chemicals in it. But, it is not good for freshwater.

Just out of interest, what vaulable nutrients are you refering to?
 
A lot of arguing over fishless cycling, not a lot of clarifying it to the person who's killing fish by not doing it right. Shame on you guys. You're actually causing the suffering you're trying to prevent.


Anyway, @ original poster:
Fish excrete ammonia. Ammonia is highly toxic. There are bacteria that convert ammonia to nitrite, which is also toxic. There are bacteria that convert nitrite to nitrate, which is relatively nontoxic.

The bacteria have to colonize before your aquarium is safe for fish. As a rule of thumb, they double in population approximately every day, as long as there is food (ammonia or nitrite) present for them. So, you have to make food available for them by adding pure ammonia in water, available at ace hardware in a 10% solution.

It typically takes 6 weeks to establish these bacteria. You can greatly accelerate the process by seeding the tank with filter material from an established tank.

Drying out will kill the bacteria. Do not allow your filter material to dry out.
Chlorine will kill the bacteria. Do not expose your filter to chlorinated tap water.

If you do not want to fishless cycle, start off with a VERY LIGHT bioload. In a 10 gallon tank, this would probably mean one sparingly fed 2" fish, or a couple 1" fish. Use hardy fish.

Higher temperatures accelerate the growth of the bacteria. If fishless cycling, set heater to 86*F.
Seachem prime will detoxify ammonia and nitrite in an emergency, without making it unavailable to bacteria.
 
I do not believe in too clean, I have a FX5 hooked up to my betta bowl and it totally owns, I have to pick the bettas out of the intake from time to time but other that....perfect.:)
 
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