Is this ich?

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I found a product called kordon ick attack, it’s supposed to be plant and shrimp safe… my tank is planted, so wanted to stay away from salt (also snails and shrimp).
In my tank, the only plants harmed were hornwort and aponogeton. Both have since regrown/started to regrow. This was 2 weeks ago.
Inverts are a different story though.
 
In my tank, the only plants harmed were hornwort and aponogeton. Both have since regrown/started to regrow. This was 2 weeks ago.
Inverts are a different story though.
I do have a bottle of api super ick cure. It says to use half dose for sensitive fish. Not sure who would sensitive in my tank (2 rope fish one African butterfly fish). I am currently hunting down my rabbit snails. I have a really big one (2 1/2 inches) a smaller one and they had a baby (almost impossible to find because it’s small).
Not really too concerned about the shrimp (they will be food one day). But plants, can api super ick be used in a planted aquarium?
 
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I do have a bottle of api super ick cure. It says to use half dose for sensitive fish. Not sure who would sensitive in my tank (2 rope fish one African butterfly fish). I am currently hunting down my rabbit snails. I have a really big one (2 1/2 inches) a smaller one and they had a baby (almost impossible to find because it’s small).
Not really too concerned about the shrimp (they will be food one day). But plants, can api super ick be used in a planted aquarium?
I just thought of something. I have read that you can transfer ick to other tanks, for example using a net in an infected tank and not allowing it to completely dry and then use it in another tank, and its spread… moving my snails to my 5 gallon african dwarf frog tank, could this spread ich to my other tank?
 
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I don’t think adf get ich, but I can see the concern. Maybe grabbing the snails by hand would work?
This is a larger concern when there is a lot of ich vs just beginning.
I think api super ick cure will stain decor, but is safe for plants. Neither of the species you mentioned are fragile, but they definitely aren’t the hardiest as far as I know. You can start at half dose and if it isn’t effective, bump it up.
 
I did cal
Looking at those fish, I'd treat for ick.
3lbs salt per 100 gallons (rock salt, water softener salt, table salt any kind of NaCl.
I like water softener salt, I throw in 3 lbs all at once in a 100 gal tank, and it dissolves gradually. https://hosting.photobucket.com/alb...6b072e5.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds
Was about $5 for 50 lbs
l did reach out to the lfs where I purchased them. I explained that I believe the two ropes I purchased have ich/ick and that I have three rabbit snails in a planted tank. I also told her I do have a bottle of api super ick treatment on hand. I was told that they use ich x on their tanks and it will not harm snails or plants. She said it may stain (which idc about, i like fish not decorations). I did order a bottle from Amazon.

Someone shared with me the benefits of garlic in fish food. I did a little research and it appears that garlic can be used as a stimulant to get finicky fish to eat and there has been some research that suggest it can kill or inhibit parasites. From what I have read it can be used in fish food to promote health and help sick fish. There are products sold with garlic as fish food. I was thinking while I wait for the ich x maybe some garlic will help my sick guys get better.

I took tilapia and put it in a Tupperware with some minced garlic and a lil bit of tank water. I also added two freeze dried crickets. I purchased the freeze dried crickets for the african butterfly fish. She will try to eat them but they are too hard for her to swallow. I tried cutting them up, she still goes for them but again they are just too crunchy for her to swallow. I figure maybe soaking them will soften them up and give her some garlic to help boost her immune system. Tupperware is in the fridge for night. Tomorrow morning I’ll cut the tilapia and use a toothpick to poke tiny minced garlic in a few of the bite size pieces.

I will update in case anyone else is curious about ich affecting rope fish and treatment with snails, inverts and plants.
 
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Update: I read the instructions for using ich x. There is one thing that stood out to me, which I thought I should share. When using ich c you cannot use a water conditioner that contains sulfur. I currently use seachem prime. Well anyone who has used it knows it does smell of sulfur. I did order a bottle of something called ultimate water conditioner from the same company who sells ich x. The ich x is supposed to be here today, the conditioner showed up yesterday. I will be cleaning the tank today, well vacuum substrate and remove 1/3 to 1/2 of the water. It also states to clean or replace filters. I am running a fluval fx6 on this tank. I did recently change the filters in the canister. So I am still debating whether to pull out the canister and wash all the filters. I have been soaking tilapia in garlic and feeding the ropes with the garlic food. They are still eating, so I am pretty confident they will overcome this ich and be healthy. I will continue to post just in case anyone else has the ich problem. I find these forums are helpful but sometimes people forget to post their outcomes ?
 
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I second the kordon product. I used it in my planted tank and it had no effect on the plants, shrimp or snails. Worked great. Some sort of all natural herbal remedy.
 
I second the kordon product. I used it in my planted tank and it had no effect on the plants, shrimp or snails. Worked great. Some sort of all natural herbal remedy.
I am a bit confused now by the directions. When I bought ich x it says to use ultimate or a mix of two of their other products. I received the ultimate and the ultimate says not to use with medication that has dye, like malachite green… well that’s what the ich x has an ingredient. So why would ich x say to use ultimate, then ultimate say not to use with ich x. I did send a message to manufacturer to get clarification…. It’s been a long waiting game trying to save my fish. I attempted to raise tank temp to 86F, but for some reason the two heaters I have (both 300w) are cranked up to 90 and the temp is only at 84.7…. I also ordered a new heater.
 
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