is this mfk acceptable?

[screaminleeman]

I would never get a fish I couldnt keep for all its life. Ive passed up so many RTC / PACU and TSN in my time but I cant house them fully grown so I stay away

In my oppinion this is utterly rediculous!

I hear what you are saying and everything, but I so completely disageree with you that it is off the chart.

Dude, do you recognize that you are posting on a website called "MONSTERFISHKEEPERS.COM"?

My gosh Dude, I have a spring fed farm pond roughly 150' across and dredged to 15' deep! After dredging, I restocked the pond with what I thought were bluegils (around 20 caught from the local resevoiur!), that were more accurately (green sunfish), and eight bass (7 LMB and 1 SMB) roughly 10 years ago.

I only started aquarium hobby less than three years ago. The Green Sunnies have bred and are now bazillions. I assume that the original(s) are all long past their natural life cycle.

There are two LMB remaining that the local neighborhood kids, or the two resident Blue Herons have not picked off. They are over a decade old and were around 6 - 8 inches when I put them in. They are already beyond their natural lifespan, and I pray pass within a year or so (> 18").

I have just in the past couple of weeks began to do what I got into aquarium fishkeeping for. To raise Gar and Bowfin large enough to stock in my pond without becoming Bass chow. I don't have the heart to kill the two remaining monsters, and they will live the remainder of thier lives in the pond.

I doubt seriously if your oppinion is in any regard on a website like this.

Dude, What do you think the average full lifespan of a Gar, Bowfin & Sturgeon monsters are?

They have lifespans that are beyond any Humans ability to keep for life!

So you are basically saying that any of os MFKer's in the Ancient fish, or coldwater fish sections are irresponsible by nature.

Welcome to MFK. Please keep only guppies, Killiefish and Cardinal tetras with lifespans that you can count on your fingers if this rational is of importance for you.

That be the case, there are many fish hobby sites far more your style. MFK has got to be the worst for you!

 

[ColeFishing]

If you need to ask other people if it's responsible, than you already know it isn't and are just looking for an excuse.

Usually, people who "go another direction", don't have fish that are hard or impossible to house properly. Buying fish that outgrow most tanks with full knowledge of having to pass them on to somebody else, is not responsible. Also, you don't know in what state the other party is going to be when you need to get rid off it. Not to mention that the OP seems to have a poor understanding of reality (judging from the we're full of cash, I can do anything comments) and his understanding of "yeah, sure man, I can accept any fish you have problem with" differently than the other party in the agreement who might not be looking forward to the nice future 4' surprise.

If the other party has space and wants a large TSN, he can easily adopt one. By buying one and passing it on later, you're a) supporting importation of fish unsuitable for usual aquaria and b) denying another miserable TSN a place in your buddy's dream tank that you so much love talking about.

So no, it's never responsible.

Acceptable, maybe, but not responsible.

Also, the finance remark was brought up by someone who said that keeping tsn is more expensive than keeping red parrots do I posted the remark as a "jokingful" reply saying that it isn't an issue. Just drop it. I do however see your side of the story and it's interesting hearing everyone's opinion for the subject.


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[screaminleeman]

Also, the finance remark was brought up by someone who said that keeping tsn is more expensive than keeping red parrots do I posted the remark as a "jokingful" reply saying that it isn't an issue. Just drop it. I do however see your side of the story and it's interesting hearing everyone's opinion for the subject.


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Personally, I think that the RTC is unatractive. I also despise the fact that both the Asian and SA RTC require heat for our local (MD & OH).

I would stick with the Albino Channel cats, as they are IMO far more atractive than the RTC and can easily go into outdoor pond(s) in the MD & OH areas. The only drawback to the RTC is that you have easily 1,000 times less potential takers for this large catfish when it outgraws your aquaria than a cold water species.


With that said, COMPLETELY ignore any butt wart that made any insinuation that you are "IRRESPONSIBLE". They are to the very last one the absolute waste of Human flesh. Unless there is a clear "life and death" situation "REQUIRING" that a Human "home" ANY fish, than the very basis of the Hobby of Fishkeeping is purely 100% for selfish reasons.

I am selfish. "Homing' or otherwise enslaving attractive fish gives me a sense of tranquility and a calming influence. It is relaxing and enjoyable. Again 100% pure irresponsible self endulgense.

Any F--- that tells you that YOU are irresponsible for keeping some type of fish, and keep some other type themselves, just add them to your ignore list. They have nothing that you need.

Good luck with the new RTC and keep us posted.

 

[ColeFishing]

Personally, I think that the RTC is unatractive. I also despise the fact that both the Asian and SA RTC require heat for our local (MD & OH).

I would stick with the Albino Channel cats, as they are IMO far more atractive than the RTC and can easily go into outdoor pond(s) in the MD & OH areas. The only drawback to the RTC is that you have easily 1,000 times less potential takers for this large catfish when it outgraws your aquaria than a cold water species.


With that said, COMPLETELY ignore any butt wart that made any insinuation that you are "IRRESPONSIBLE". They are to the very last one the absolute waste of Human flesh. Unless there is a clear "life and death" situation "REQUIRING" that a Human "home" ANY fish, than the very basis of the Hobby of Fishkeeping is purely 100% for selfish reasons.

I am selfish. "Homing' or otherwise enslaving attractive fish gives me a sense of tranquility and a calming influence. It is relaxing and enjoyable. Again 100% pure irresponsible self endulgense.

Any F--- that tells you that YOU are irresponsible for keeping some type of fish, and keep some other type themselves, just add them to your ignore list. They have nothing that you need.

Good luck with the new RTC and keep us posted.

Tiger shovelnose actually, but I love channel cats so much. I have a regular channel that growing for my 500 gallon pond. He's awesome. He grows about 1.5" a month and he is 10" at the moment. I'm thinking of doing another one that's albino. There really cool. Also please keep your opinions more polite please. I respect everyone's thought and hope people do it in a polite manner


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Every ---- is entitled to their own ---- opinion .

Your right and that's how you have acted in this thread!!!!

HAVE A NICE DAY

 

[Slippery K]

At least you know if you did buy one, that you couldnt house it long term. So I give you credit for that. But sometimes it can be hard to rehome a large fish unless you already know a few people with large tanks that have the room for a fish like that.

 

[ColeFishing]

At least you know if you did buy one, that you couldnt house it long term. So I give you credit for that. But sometimes it can be hard to rehome a large fish unless you already know a few people with large tanks that have the room for a fish like that.

Thanks. I know folks w/ large tanks in the area that might take him. My brother once had a dreaded pacu and it out grew his tank and he put it up on Craigslist. Later, a man with a multi-thousand gallon tank wanted it and we gave it to him. I might give him a ring when the time comes.


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[screaminleeman]

Tiger shovelnose actually, but I love channel cats so much. I have a regular channel that growing for my 500 gallon pond. He's awesome. He grows about 1.5" a month and he is 10" at the moment. I'm thinking of doing another one that's albino. There really cool. Also please keep your opinions more polite please. I respect everyone's thought and hope people do it in a polite manner


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Dude, I was totally defending you. Honestly, if the moral highball types oppinions are of any interest to you, than you should indeed follow their advise and get out of the hobby.

It is hysterical that the term "responsible" is used to describe the Human hobby of enslaving lower life forms as "pets". Wow. Human responsibility includes Drawing Oxygen into your lungs to breath, Drinking fluid to keep your body hydrated, and eating food to supply the needed nutrients for bi-peddle locomotive life.

That is the HUMANS responsibility. It is NOT our responsibility to "home" any type of "animal". It is our choice.


Insofar as how "responsible" we Humans are as a species, there is no such thing.

There was a "jingle" during the USA Bi-centennial. Two-Hundred Million people, no two are quite the same ......
This referred to the population of the USA. The EARTH was sporting 2.6 Billion those 35 (thirty-five human years) years ago. There was only one major problem that the planet faced in 1976, and that was the gross over-population of the species. The planet could not support 2.6 Billion humans, and it was game over until we figured out population control.

Well, today we are 7 Billion, and graciously accept our Genocide as a necessity to retain uncontrolled sex within the species.

7 F'ING BILLION, AND THE POPULATION GROWTH WAS NEITHER CHINA NOR INDIA.

 

[ColeFishing]

Dude, I was totally defending you. Honestly, if the moral highball types oppinions are of any interest to you, than you should indeed follow their advise and get out of the hobby.

It is hysterical that the term "responsible" is used to describe the Human hobby of enslaving lower life forms as "pets". Wow. Human responsibility includes Drawing Oxygen into your lungs to breath, Drinking fluid to keep your body hydrated, and eating food to supply the needed nutrients for bi-peddle locomotive life.

That is the HUMANS responsibility. It is NOT our responsibility to "home" any type of "animal". It is our choice.


Insofar as how "responsible" we Humans are as a species, there is no such thing.

There was a "jingle" during the USA Bi-centennial. Two-Hundred Million people, no two are quite the same ......
This referred to the population of the USA. The EARTH was sporting 2.6 Billion those 35 (thirty-five human years) years ago. There was only one major problem that the planet faced in 1976, and that was the gross over-population of the species. The planet could not support 2.6 Billion humans, and it was game over until we figured out population control.

Well, today we are 7 Billion, and graciously accept our Genocide as a necessity to retain uncontrolled sex within the species.

7 F'ING BILLION, AND THE POPULATION GROWTH WAS NEITHER CHINA NOR INDIA.

Jeez. Yes I am aware of you defending me. Thank you, honestly. But I do like to see what other people have to say. And I'm trying not to have thread closed. I see the piont you've made with responsibility an it does make since. However, I believe things can be properly cared for and that's why I asked. Thanks for the vouch though


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