Is utah illegal?

[turkeyboy85]

freshwater rays in utah illegal? or just the atlantic ray because of fear of realeasing into the salt lake?

UTAH:

From the Utah Department of Natural Resources regulations:

(1) All species of fish listed in Subsections (2) through (30) are classified as prohibited for collection, importation and possession, except:

a- Koi, Cyprinidae Family (Cyprinus carpio) is prohibited for collection, and noncontrolled for importation and possession;

b- all species and subspecies of ornamental fish not listed in Subsections (2) through (30) are classified as prohibited for collection, and noncontrolled for importation and possession; and

c- all species and subspecies of non-ornamental fish not listed in Subsections (2) through (30) are classified as prohibited for collection, and controlled for importation and possession.

(2) Carp, including hybrids, Cyprinidae Family, (All species, except Koi).

(3) Catfish:

a- Flathead catfish, Ictaluridae Family (Pylodictus olivaris);

b- Giant walking catfish (airsac), Heteropneustidae Family (All species);

c- Labyrinth catfish (walking), Clariidae Family (All species); and

d- Parasitic catfish (candiru, carnero) Trichomycteridae Family (All species).

(4) Herring:

a- Alewife, Clupeidae Family (Alosa pseudoharengus); and

b- Gizzard shad, Clupeidae Family (Dorosoma cepedianum).

(5) Killifish, Fundulidae Family (All species).

(6) Pike killifish, Poeciliidae Family (Belonesox belizanus).

(7) Minnows:

a- Bonytail, Cyprinidae Family (Gila elegans);

b- Colorado pikeminnow, Cyprinidae Family (Ptychocheilus lucius);

c- Creek chub, Cyprinidae Family (Semotilus atromaculatus);

d- Humpback chub, Cyprinidae Family (Gila cypha);

e- Least chub, Cyprinidae Family (Iotichthys phlegethontis);

f- Leatherside chub, Cyprinidae Family (Gila copei);

g- Red shiner, Cyprinidae Family (Cyprinella lutrensis);

h- Redside shiner, Cyprinidae Family (Richardsonius balteatus);

i- Roundtail chub, Cyprinidae Family (Gila robusta);

j- Sand shiner, Cyprinidae Family (Notropis stramineus);

k- Utah chub, Cyprinidae Family (Gila atraria);

l- Virgin River chub, Cyprinidae (Gila seminuda); and

m- Virgin spinedace, Cyprinidae Family (Lepidomeda mollispinis).

(8) Woundfin, Cyprinidae Family (Plagopterus argentissimus).

(9) Suckers:

a- Bluehead sucker, Catostomatidae Family (Catostomus discobolus);

b-Desert sucker, Catostomatidae Family (Catostomus clarki);

c- Flannelmouth sucker, Catostomatidae Family (Catostomus latipinnis);

d- June sucker, Catostomatidae Family (Chasmistes liorus);

e- Razorback sucker, Catostomatidae Family (Xyrauchen texanus);

f- Utah sucker, Catostomatidae Family (Catostomus ardens); and

g- White sucker, Catostomatidae Family (Catostomus commersoni).

(10) White perch, Moronidae Family (Morone americana).

(11) Cutthroat trout, Salmonidae Family (Oncorhynchus clarki)(All subspecies).

(12) Bowfin, Amiidae Family (All species).

(13) Bull shark, Carcharhinidae Family (Carcharhinus leucas).

(14) Drum (freshwater forms), Sciaenidae Family (All species).

(15) Gar, Lepidsosteidae Family (All species).

(16) Jaguar guapote, Cichlidae Family (Cichlasoma managuense).

(17) Lamprey, Petromyzontidae Family (All species).

(18) Mexican tetra, Characidae Family (Astyanax mexicanus, except blind form).

(19) Mooneye, Hiodontidae Family (All species).

(20) Nile perch, Centropomidae Family (Lates, luciolates) (All species).

(21) Northern pike, Esocidae Family (Esox lucius).

(22) Pirhana, Characidae Family (Serrasalmus, All species).

(23) Round goby, Gobiidae Family (Neogobius melanostomus).

(24) Ruffe, Percidae Family (Gymnocephalus cernuus).

(25) Snakehead, Channidae Family (All species).

(26) Stickleback, Gasterosteidae Family (All species).

(27) Stingray (freshwater), Dasyatidae Family (All species).

(28) Swamp eel, Synbranchidae Family (All species).

(29) Tiger fish, guavinus, Erythrinidae Family (Hoplias malabaricus).

(30) Tilapia, Cichlidae Family (Tilapia and Sarotherodon) (All species).


Source: Utah Administrative Code Rule 657-3-23:

http://www.rules.utah.gov/publicat/c...57-003.htm#T23




The Atlantic Stingray (Dasyatis sabina) ???


So does this mean South americian rays are legal?

 

[turkeyboy85]

venders i would really like your input on this, im assuming its not the potamotrygonideae species

 

[davo]

venders i would really like your input on this, im assuming its not the potamotrygonideae species

Me too, as it states Dasyatidae

 

[turkeyboy85]

Me too, as it states Dasyatidae

exactly, which in my thoughts would mean they are worried about the spread into the salt lake....

 

[invisyblegypsey]

i dont think its fear of them in the salt lake. i was raised on the lake shore till i was 18 and the only thing that can live in it is brine shrimp and brine fly larva.
the only other body of water that has a higher salinity is the dead sea.
but probbley they are concernd abought is 1 willard bay 2 the bear fiver and 3 utah lake. all of witch drain into the lake at some piont.

http://www.utahfishinginfo.com/utahlakes/willardbay.php

http://www.fws.gov/bearriver/

http://www.bearriverinfo.org/description/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Lake

http://www.mitigationcommission.gov/wetlands/wetlands_ulwp.html

http://www.utah.com/stateparks/great_salt_lake.htm

 

[ewurm]

If your text is an exact copy and paste of the current law, I'd say that Potamotrygonids are legal. They may have intended to include all freshwater stingray species, but only included the Dasyatids.

 

[Fish Room Plus]

I would say no. It states fresh water stingrays. There use of "Dasyatidae" was intended for the salt water rays , including the Atlantic

 

[ewurm]

Email sent to Utah Fish and Wildlife Dept.

 

[trplxj]

no they are not illegal. A member of a local board went though all the "red tape" with Utah DWR and freshwater rays are not illegal in Utah. I personally talked to the owner of Amazon Stingrays about shipping to Utah and after I showed him the law directly from the DWR website he said that he would ship to Utah no problem. Hope this helps.

 

[ewurm]

no they are not illegal. A member of a local board went though all the "red tape" with Utah DWR and freshwater rays are not illegal in Utah. I personally talked to the owner of Amazon Stingrays about shipping to Utah and after I showed him the law directly from the DWR website he said that he would ship to Utah no problem. Hope this helps.

I appreciate the first part, but the fact that a vendor will ship you a fish does not make it legal.