It's offical........Asian Carp are in Minnesota waters :(
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Commerical fishermen regularly pulled these Asian carps out and sell them to Asia....still hasn't able to put a dent on their populations.
It's much to do about nothing!These fish have been running
wild in North American waters for over 20yrs now and I've yet
to see ANY hard evidence that they've had ANY effect on
ANY native species populations???....Just the same old
exaggerated drivel and speculation from so called fisheries
'biologists'..Don't believe the BS,these people love to beat
a drum!....Don't ever forget,these are the same people who
think it is acceptable to kill native species in untold numbers
for sport,bringing some to near extinction in the past.These
Biologists and State agencies have done more damage to our
waters and fish populations than the big head's and sliver's
could ever do.
wild in North American waters for over 20yrs now and I've yet
to see ANY hard evidence that they've had ANY effect on
ANY native species populations???....Just the same old
exaggerated drivel and speculation from so called fisheries
'biologists'..Don't believe the BS,these people love to beat
a drum!....Don't ever forget,these are the same people who
think it is acceptable to kill native species in untold numbers
for sport,bringing some to near extinction in the past.These
Biologists and State agencies have done more damage to our
waters and fish populations than the big head's and sliver's
could ever do.
There are STRONGLY HARD evidence that Asian carps have an effect on native populations. Native shad and buffalo populations have declined in recent years and it is not uncommon for commerical fisherman found emaciated buffaloes in their nets. Other natives shows signs of starvation (emaciated natives are common in infested areas). Even in some areas where the Asian carps are overpopulated that they started to starved and unable to reproduce then starts to die off.
Here's the picture shows emaciated paddlefish caught in infested area.
MN-In what waters were these studies conducted?I'm aware of the fact that
in localized areas Big heads and sliver's make up a very large part of the biomass
but emaciated and starving fish is surely not the norm through out their entire
range.I've just read another thread a few pages back where the op assisted
a study that yielded a healthy population of natives including juvi paddle fish
on the Mo. River along side a large population of big heads and silvers.
The media is really blowing this thing well out of proportion.They do with
most cases like this.Remember how they went crazy with the snakeheads?
'Fishzilla' headlines,presented all sorts of exaggerated claims and absurd
'fact's.Every time someone catches a released pacu in the northern states
it's a viscous man eating pirahna!They love it!It's no different with the Asian
carp!For every biologist that says they're a threat,there is another that will
contradict him,but you never hear that side.The facts are far less interesting
news.They fail to mention that it's highly unlikely that they would ever be
capable of reaching the population numbers in the Great Lakes that they
have in the large rivers based on their unique spawning habits and
requirements.They also fail to mention why these fish were able to
populate these rivers in the numbers that they have to begin with.
in localized areas Big heads and sliver's make up a very large part of the biomass
but emaciated and starving fish is surely not the norm through out their entire
range.I've just read another thread a few pages back where the op assisted
a study that yielded a healthy population of natives including juvi paddle fish
on the Mo. River along side a large population of big heads and silvers.
The media is really blowing this thing well out of proportion.They do with
most cases like this.Remember how they went crazy with the snakeheads?
'Fishzilla' headlines,presented all sorts of exaggerated claims and absurd
'fact's.Every time someone catches a released pacu in the northern states
it's a viscous man eating pirahna!They love it!It's no different with the Asian
carp!For every biologist that says they're a threat,there is another that will
contradict him,but you never hear that side.The facts are far less interesting
news.They fail to mention that it's highly unlikely that they would ever be
capable of reaching the population numbers in the Great Lakes that they
have in the large rivers based on their unique spawning habits and
requirements.They also fail to mention why these fish were able to
populate these rivers in the numbers that they have to begin with.
Are you trying to twist up the facts about silver/bighead carps as harmless "non-native"? It's funny how you dismissed the solid facts that asian carps put a hurt on native populations. There is evidence that native populations has declined in some rivers where the asian carps took over, yet you denied that fact? Buffaloes and paddlefish shows the signs of starvation, yet you denied that fact? I don't know why you are trying to hide all negative impacts of Asian carps but the cold solid fact is there and there's no way you can denied these facts. In fact they did studies on the asian carps affect on the ecosystems and so far they do find negative effects.
Is this a targeted fishery or are the carp caught as bycatch? Whether the commercial fishermen intentionally target them or not is important when putting into context how many are being caught and sold.
there is a small market for it in asian shops but exporting it i not all that good since they run wild in most areas that ship them so demand is not all that high
Thing is, finding foreign markets shouldn't be hard if Asia is the considered market and more intense fishing could help put a little more control on their populations. Just have all the catch killed before shipping them.
but even if americans are practically giving it away the shipping costs would be huge to transport so many fish across the world, likely cheaper to rely on the communal fish markets
