you people have some nice jags,loven the last one,i haven't seen the pattern go that far on the face before
Jaguar Cichlid
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2 emperor 400s wouldnt be my choice. they are good for biological, but you need something really good for mechanical. something like the fluval 405 would be much better since you can reuse the mechanical media. for a 75 i woudl use 2 fluval 405s. my combo works very well too and would be a little cheaper (fluval 405 and 2 whisper 60s).
and thanks for the compliments.
and thanks for the compliments.
That gives me such inspiration for my jag. She (round fins and big spots?) is still small but I have high hopes especially when I upgrade in the beginning of the year
How much more would a 90 cost, compared to a 75? Also would you worry about a 90 on the 2nd floor of a 50 year old house?
Thanks
Mike
Thanks
Mike
usually not, but in a 50 year old house you may want to consult a professional on that one. and a 90 is only 4" taller and thats it, so in my opinion it wouldnt make the tank any better for the jag and i would go with the 75 and use the money for better filtration, it will appreciate that more than the extra 4" a 90 would provide.
I'm kind of torn from the jag because I want a male fish and aren't they hard to sex?
Thanks
Mike
P.S.- I am not sexist in any way unless it comes to my fish...
Thanks
Mike
P.S.- I am not sexist in any way unless it comes to my fish...
i have a jag pair in a 75 gal female is 7 inch and the male is 9inch i have owned them for 3 years since they were about a inhc long. i have seen a 15 inch specimem at my lfs i dont know how old he is or what size tank he was raised in but i would love to see mine get that big time to move them into my 125 gal and try to put some size on them.
There is nothing wrong with that kind of growth. It's almost impossible to answer this question with any specific linear dimension. In general, cichlids...and more than likely MOST fish...will grow quicker from birth to small fry. It 's carved into their genetic code to get big quick or be eaten. Once they hit a certain size, the growing slows down with growth spurts common. So it depend on where on the "life cycle" your fish is now.
I have a half dozen Managuense that grew up in three different tanks. Four are about the same age. There is a marked difference in the size of the male in the SMALLER tank. (100 gallon) As opposed to the ones in the pond. Smaller tank, smaller size in this case. Big water grows bigger fish.
The Managuense I have (Jumbo) seemed like he was two inches forever, then just started growing. As a fry he grew at approximately 1/4 inch a month in total length. But at the same time appeared thicker and higher bodied. How do you factor that into "how big in how long?" Impossible.
So you go from this:
to this...
then this...
What you find out is that one or another are bigger. In this case the larger fry in the tank is "Jumbo" here at a little over a year...
And here seven or so years later.
I think that part of what you have to look at is the percentage of their body mass it increased. From wiggler to an inch over any time period is an impressive figure if you consider how much it's grown in mass.
And among fish of the same breed and in fact, brood, some grow faster than others as noted in the photo. I can't back it up, but I would beleive that tank raised specimes from fish well estbablished over the years would have fry that wouldn't grow as fast with a pair of wild fish. Again, just a guess, but I would think that the predation factor weighs heavily on growth..and that the farther away you get from having it imbedded in your behaviour the less danger and the speed of growth would not be as necessary.
The best piece of advice I ever received for the growth of fish was from Wayne Leibel, who said in a seminar that water changes were more important for overall growth. Good luck. Great fish.
I have a half dozen Managuense that grew up in three different tanks. Four are about the same age. There is a marked difference in the size of the male in the SMALLER tank. (100 gallon) As opposed to the ones in the pond. Smaller tank, smaller size in this case. Big water grows bigger fish.
The Managuense I have (Jumbo) seemed like he was two inches forever, then just started growing. As a fry he grew at approximately 1/4 inch a month in total length. But at the same time appeared thicker and higher bodied. How do you factor that into "how big in how long?" Impossible.
So you go from this:
to this...
then this...
What you find out is that one or another are bigger. In this case the larger fry in the tank is "Jumbo" here at a little over a year...
And here seven or so years later.
I think that part of what you have to look at is the percentage of their body mass it increased. From wiggler to an inch over any time period is an impressive figure if you consider how much it's grown in mass.
And among fish of the same breed and in fact, brood, some grow faster than others as noted in the photo. I can't back it up, but I would beleive that tank raised specimes from fish well estbablished over the years would have fry that wouldn't grow as fast with a pair of wild fish. Again, just a guess, but I would think that the predation factor weighs heavily on growth..and that the farther away you get from having it imbedded in your behaviour the less danger and the speed of growth would not be as necessary.
The best piece of advice I ever received for the growth of fish was from Wayne Leibel, who said in a seminar that water changes were more important for overall growth. Good luck. Great fish.
