Jardini Gasping

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the worm i fed was on the surface, but underneath a log that I turned over. The area I live in is pretty clean - no industrial pollutants or anything like that and we don't use chemicals in our lawn. I never treat the water before I change it because I ahve well water, which is in essence water taken from a river. I've never had any problems in that regard before. The wc was after the feed and I did not put a powerhead in there, instead i put some bubblers in. And yes the fish seemed fine before the wc
 
classic-chassis;3279346; said:
I wouldn't put a power head in there, if the fish is listless and doing head stands (which isn't good) the power head will knock him all over the tank.
Did you treat the water before the water change?
Was the water change before or after the feed? if it was after was the fish OK until you did the WC?
What did you clean your filter with?
Tank water or tap water? If your BB has died in the cleaning process it will have turned toxic.

Where did you get the earth worm from?
Did you dig it out of the ground or did you find it on the surface hidden under something?
If you didn't dig it out of the ground it could be bad for your fish. I've killed Gater snakes before from feeding them worms that live on the surface hidden under trash.

Got the earthworm from flipping over a log in my yard. We don't use any chemicals or anything like that and we live fairly far from any major city.

I don't usually treat the water at all because we get well water, which from what i understand is fine.

I did the wc after the feed (a day later). Prior to that he seemed fine. I tried upping the pH a little during the wc (from 6 - 6.1ish), but beyond that and cleaning the filter I didn't do anything unusual

I cleaned my filter outside of the tank using warm water and rinsing / wiping it down.

Sorry for the double post, my internet is acting up (now, of all times)
 
it could be choking on the worm i lost a fire eel to choking the head thing in the start could have been it trying to swallow.
 
I don't think your BB has turn toxic because you washed it all away.
As you say well water should be fine.
Was the water cold when you did the change? It may just be suffering from shock.
As Sbuse said it might just be struggling to swallow the worm.
I don't think it is this however because it was fine for a day prior to the WC.
 
You say the WC triggered this? How big of a WC did you do? What size and how many WCs have you done to this tank over the last 6 weeks? What was your pH previous to the WC?

What are your nitrite levels at?
 
sbuse;3279441; said:
it could be choking on the worm i lost a fire eel to choking the head thing in the start could have been it trying to swallow.

but choking for a couple days?
 
the wc was about 30%, and I do them on a weekly basis (with gravel filtering). I've checked ammonia and nitrite levels in case they were the cause, and if they were spiking then I would know what the issue is. In regards to the temp of the water during the wc, i fill up the buckets with warm water that matches the water in the tank (roughly) in temp.

pH previous to wc was 6.0, afterwards was 6.1.

Oh also, I'm not sure if this is an irregularity of the testing chemical or something but when I test for ammonia, at first everything tests fine. Then, if I let it sit there and a couple days later the color of the water changes and it becomes a color congruent with a significant amount of ammonia in it (around .1). However I've tested the water after the wc and this has not happened yet. Could this have something to do with my problem?
 
Looks as if you have a pretty good handle on your water params, any update on thearos condition?
 
asder112;3279627; said:
but choking for a couple days?

problibly not for a couple days if it was it should have died by now. it could be reacting to something in the water(not able to be detected) maybe try a 50%-75% water change weekly permanent change...thats what i do for my tank. i didn't see the temp. now. i would try to get it to like 82f-84f or so to maybe kill any bactiria or unseen sickness...atleast that would rule out that part of it. don't go too high it might kill the stressed fish and do it gradually. just an idea.
 
i suggest just hiring ace ventura to fix that problem. heard he is the man when it comes to things like that. does anyone know the most lethal pirahna that i can find
 
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