LOL! I agree with you somewhat on a few points suckerfish, don't think if Kerry won we'd be wiped off the map. Though I don't think he'd have been any better than what we have now.
Jihad on Americans
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I really hate all the money related theories but if you go by the idea that the reason why France, Germany, Russia, and Chian are against the war is because they are making money in the same matter you can say that the United States went for oil; after the invasion United States lifted the sanctions and now has full authority over Iraqs oil sales and oil industry in general.suckerfish said:I want 70 virgins... AALLLLAAAAAH AKBAR. if we look back, you could blame the british empire for most of the conflicts today and of the past. israel, kashmir, iran, iraq, etc...... i think everbody is missing the point on iraq. bush senior should of gone to bagdad in 91, he didn't because of the hell hole that is happening now. .
iraq laughed at un sanctions all the while france, germany, russia, china are making $ under the table, why do you think they didn't want this war---they making too much $ from sanctions. CLITton----biggest wuss we've ever had as president. embassy bombings, uss cole, momar trying to kill bush senior, what did the perjuring puss do, couple of missile in a RX factory. so to sum it up.IMO we went to war to make the UN a place with backbone, otherwise i think we would have/should have left the UN.
now, where's all the racial jokes, an yes, i am of english ancestory, so let's start off with what do you call a white..........
all kidding aside, how bout we talk fish on mFISHk.com
p.s.
don't any of you think these regimes steer anger at us to save thier own asses? these cartoons are a perfect example, we didn't creat them and only one paper republished then, WITH an apology, but low and behold the muslim world is burning usa flags and protesting our embassies. now i don't think that many people are that stupid----just pissed at thier enviroments, goverments, etc.. and who better to steer anger at than the BIG WHITE DEVIL.
who knows, maybe they are just that dumb?
AND YES I LOVE BUSH. not the president,lol
thank god jon kerry didn't win..we'd be WIPED OFF THE MAP by now.
love you all.
As far as Clinton being a wuss because he did not retaliate to the embassy bombings, USS Cole, etc that was a mistake on his part for going after Bin Laden when he had the chance (you have to note the past support of Bin Laden by the United States).
What would happen if Kerry was in office, why would be wiped off the map? On a similar note I would like to point out that currently Bush has attacked the nation that had nothing to do with the events of 9/11 and the reasons of terrorism and weapons of mass destruction have been proven wrong since. While both the money suppliers and the person responsible for the attack are still on the lose.
At the same time all the policies such as the tax and social security reforms that were promised never took place, and the supposed social security crisis is still coming while being fully unresolved. Not only that but now the country who has been supplying the terrorists with money is going to control the security in our ports (current event) curtasy of the president?
I understand all the arguements about oil, and yes we gained total control over Iraq's oil. Let's face it oil is important. However Bush is now pushing for alternative fuels and renewable resources, he made valid points in his state of the union adress. Very valid points IMHO, I liked what he said about the topic and agree with them,.......................................especially when Carter made them back in the 70's!
He is also getting a great deal of criticism over that statement because of a basic fact that he made his fortune, family fortune, on the oil industry and through out his career did nothing as far as alternative oil goes.Filthy Sanchez said:
Vitaly,
i agree with you on several fronts: the oil issue, we control, yes we did support bin laden in the soviet- afgan war, i don't think we went to iraq for the right reasons, although i have clients from syria who are 110% sure the syrian regime now has iraqi wmd's, not to mention saddam gassed his own people, yes with our tipid support; and our state of national affairs--is disgusting. i think we would be burried from kerry because most democrats are: let's talk this out and bend backwards a little more for them. like clinton--who really is and was on there knees for oil?
IMO, if you show niceties and humaniteis to terrorist, they will show a 6' hole with your name on it.
man, i love history, because we (mankind) never learn.
you know what i find is the funniest thing about iraq? the sunnis are trying to drive us out, and i say let's go. iran will come in and committ genocide on all the sunnis, including the sunni kurds, then bam arab/ non arab muslim holy WWIII. with out western societs involved. this is of course my opinon
however, opinons are like a-holes, everybody has at least one!!!!
i agree with you on several fronts: the oil issue, we control, yes we did support bin laden in the soviet- afgan war, i don't think we went to iraq for the right reasons, although i have clients from syria who are 110% sure the syrian regime now has iraqi wmd's, not to mention saddam gassed his own people, yes with our tipid support; and our state of national affairs--is disgusting. i think we would be burried from kerry because most democrats are: let's talk this out and bend backwards a little more for them. like clinton--who really is and was on there knees for oil?
IMO, if you show niceties and humaniteis to terrorist, they will show a 6' hole with your name on it.
man, i love history, because we (mankind) never learn.
you know what i find is the funniest thing about iraq? the sunnis are trying to drive us out, and i say let's go. iran will come in and committ genocide on all the sunnis, including the sunni kurds, then bam arab/ non arab muslim holy WWIII. with out western societs involved. this is of course my opinon
however, opinons are like a-holes, everybody has at least one!!!!
i hear the UAE supports the MAN-BOY association, with its leader, michael jackson 
damn, first its perverts and now i have to pay them a fee to go in the water.
damn, first its perverts and now i have to pay them a fee to go in the water.
The U.S. government was slow off the mark getting aid to Katrina victims for a couple of reasons. The main one being that it was an unprecedented event. If you saw pictures, which everyone in this country did, you can understand that the entire, and i mean entire infrastructure was wiped out. Every means of communication we have come to depend on was gone. That is not to say I excuse the response, because it was somewhat lacking. At the same time, it does not take away from the fact that the U.S. is out front as responders in world crisis. We are asked to solve the AIDS problem in Africa, help out in the Middle East, the Russian Republics, South America. Granted, some of this is for our own interests, but it does not take away from humanitarian work.
It is very easy to point fingers, and find fault at previous and current leaders. Also, where were you when all these "wrong doings" by the politicians are happening. Why didn't you point that out? If you were so "right" about things. In reality, if we know what the outcome would be, common sense would tell you not to do it. Unfortunately, it is the nature of man (or woman) to gain favor on the expense of others. Don't tell me you have not done this. Who am I talking to? anyone who thinks that "they are to blame, except me". Of course I would kill someone else before they kill me, that is the nature of man. What is happening in the middle east is that, they are not in the business of forgiving, but more of the "killing". So much hate is going on there, that there is no right mind that is reasoning there anymore. And when I say that I hope they get wiped out by some disease, I am not wishing it on the innocent people, but the ones that cause pain and suffering to the people around them. Who knows who is a Christian or not, that is another topic. Right now, the topic is, why can't the "jihad" be convinced to forgive? instead, they are more readily to kill.
Jihad means "Holy War"
Jihad means "Holy War"
I know jihad means holy war (actually to set right something that is wrong) I lived in the middle east for 2 years. I agree and believe in forgiveness, but it's not really a matter of the past as our wrong doings continue to this day. People in that part of the world have tied religious beliefs to closely to government and allowed to many mad men to hijack their faith. There are people here who would like nothing more than to make America a theocracy, and that's just a recipe for disaster.
