kelberi lovers.. what do you think about these guys?

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bOOsteN aUdI;2534759; said:
we seen plenty in his own threads... this is not a thread to knock jeffs kelberis nor is it a thread to advertise ocellaris! kelberi talk only and back on topic please.... if you dont like kelberis or you don't feel like waiting to see how they develop then don't post negative comments or a change of subject here please.

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bOOsteN aUdI;2525046; said:
i'm not sure, i found it on the web.. kelberi sp. rio araguaia*

shows minor resemblance if you ask me. don't hold me to this ( i have to do the research) but if im not mistaking Minas Gerais is a drainage of the rio araguaia
That is an awesome little kelberi, is that yours boosten, your right it does look very similar. I do know Minas Gerais is a state in Brazil. Also from researching I have learned that kelberi where introduced in Minas Gerias a while back as monoculus and did not naturally occur there. So it is possible that they were collected from rio araguaia. Azuls were also introduced in Minas Gerais so they may be next on the stock list's.

bOOsteN aUdI;2534759; said:
we seen plenty in his own threads... this is not a thread to knock jeffs kelberis nor is it a thread to advertise ocellaris! kelberi talk only and back on topic please.... if you dont like kelberis or you don't feel like waiting to see how they develop then don't post negative comments or a change of subject here please.

To be honest I think Jeff might be taking you guys for a ride as far as price goes. You guys are totally mad about cichla and are willing to pay a fortune for these fish and Jeff knows it. We don't have anywhere near as much demand in the UK. The lfs where I got mine specializes in importing rare and wild fish and said it wasn't that expensive to get the kelberi. I only paid about 45 USD each for mine. I'm sure there are a few members on here that think mine are not kelberi purely because of the price tag.
 
You know all this talk about this and that it all comes down to one thing. "What you have in your tank and what you wish you had in your tank". That is is it. When people walk into my house and I get to share my knowledge of my collection with them that is what is rewarding and the visual beauty and grace they exibit. AND now I can say I have Kelberi! As far as looks at a young age none of my Cichla were super attractive at less then 8''. You know I have said this more then once and will say it again. Any Cichla keeper is going to need one thing - Patience. PERIOD.

As far as Rapps and the prices over the pond. It's purely the demand I don't think Rapps is trying to make a buck but he is making some money but more or less he is getting a highly sought after item that WAS NEVER TO BE SHIPPED HERE TO THE STATES EVER AGAIN. So even if he charged what were paying for our rare Sting Rays I bet someone will pay the price tag. But at the end of the day in this hobby how can anyone complain about money?

Of course yes I wish I could get a Kelberi for $45.00, but there charging $50.00 + for Orino's at the LFS so imo anything Rapps ask us to pay is worth it because it's the demand not the man. And he was able to get us all an item that we may never have seen anywhere else except the Buy and Sell section here on MFK for about five times the amount we paid dealling with someone I know I can trust to get me quality cichlids.
 
High City Rida;2536223; said:
You know all this talk about this and that it all comes down to one thing what you have in your tank and what you wish you had in your tank. That is is it. When people walk into my house and I get to share my knowledge of my collection with them is what is rewarding. AND know I can say I have Kelberi. As far as looks at a young age none of my Cichla were super attractive at less then 8''. You know I have said this more then once and will say it again. Any Cichla keeper is going to need one thing Patience. PERIOD.

As far as Rapps and the prices over the pond. It's purely the demand I don't think Rapps is trying to make a buck but he is making some money but more or less he is getting a highly sought after item that WAS NEVER TO BE SHIPPED HERE TO THE STATES EVER AGAIN. So even if he charged what were paying for our rare Sting Rays I bet someone will pay the price tag. But at the end of the day in this hobby how can anyone complain about money?

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its not about the money.
its about how much youre willing to pay for a fish you desire.
 
All of my collection cost me about the same price so far. I for sure am not complaining because it could of and should have cost me a whole lot more then it did for any of my CICHLA, LTSN, and Sting Ray.
 
High City Rida;2536246; said:
All of my collection cost me about the same price so far. I for sure am not complaining because it could of and should have cost me a whole lot more then it did for any of my CICHLA, LTSN, and Sting Ray.

all your cichla and stuff cost you about the same price?:confused:
 
I paid about $200.00 for every major purchase I have. I paid $200.00 a piece for the Pinima but it wasn't cash it was a trade so I didn't even really come out of pocket at all for them I traded $400.00 dollar Gold Daytons for them. $200.00 a piece for the LTSN and the Sting Ray as well. But as for everything else the price tag was alway's $200.00. If you add all the Ocells and the Mono's together it comes to about $140.00 for the five and all of my other shippment's were around the same ball park range of $200.00 give or take $60.00 bucks. So yes I feel the price tag for the Kelberi was worth it.
 
High City Rida;2536303; said:
I paid about $200.00 for every major purchase I have. I paid $200.00 a piece for the Pinima but it wasn't cash it was a trade so I didn't even really come out of pocket at all for them I traded $400.00 dollar Gold Daytons for them. $200.00 a piece for the LTSN and the Sting Ray as well. But as for everything else the price tag was alway's $200.00. If you add all the Ocells and the Mono's together it comes to about $140.00 for the five and all of my other shippment's were around the same ball park range of $200.00 give or take $60.00 bucks. So yes I feel the price tag for the Kelberi was worth it.

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High City Rida;2536223; said:
You know all this talk about this and that it all comes down to one thing. "What you have in your tank and what you wish you had in your tank". That is is it. When people walk into my house and I get to share my knowledge of my collection with them that is what is rewarding and the visual beauty and grace they exibit. AND now I can say I have Kelberi! As far as looks at a young age none of my Cichla were super attractive at less then 8''. You know I have said this more then once and will say it again. Any Cichla keeper is going to need one thing - Patience. PERIOD.

As far as Rapps and the prices over the pond. It's purely the demand I don't think Rapps is trying to make a buck but he is making some money but more or less he is getting a highly sought after item that WAS NEVER TO BE SHIPPED HERE TO THE STATES EVER AGAIN. So even if he charged what were paying for our rare Sting Rays I bet someone will pay the price tag. But at the end of the day in this hobby how can anyone complain about money?

Of course yes I wish I could get a Kelberi for $45.00, but there charging $50.00 + for Orino's at the LFS so imo anything Rapps ask us to pay is worth it because it's the demand not the man. And he was able to get us all an item that we may never have seen anywhere else except the Buy and Sell section here on MFK for about five times the amount we paid dealling with someone I know I can trust to get me quality cichlids.
:clap101% :iagree:any cichla keepers NEED patience..well done.:headbang2and jeff rapps bringing rare fish here in the states..well all of us should be thankful but instead some people talk :bs:it's really annoying!.....if they think a rare fish is too much then I suggest step aside and let other post pictures without getting all this negative feedback...just because they wish they the :bling:.that's all;)
 
TimTheBadass;2536038; said:
To be honest I think Jeff might be taking you guys for a ride as far as price goes. You guys are totally mad about cichla and are willing to pay a fortune for these fish and Jeff knows it. We don't have anywhere near as much demand in the UK. The lfs where I got mine specializes in importing rare and wild fish and said it wasn't that expensive to get the kelberi. I only paid about 45 USD each for mine. I'm sure there are a few members on here that think mine are not kelberi purely because of the price tag.

Good morning.... Lmao...
Bro... The comment you have posted above can very much get alot
of people angryy @ you! Bigguapote is very well known for his expirience with rare fish and possibly been in the game much more longer than your., LFS.. So tell me how reliable is your connect?? As far as I'm going with you, is yours do turn out to be kels, you struck luck and got them at a decent price! Now walk away with it! Do not bragg and bring down a vendor that you don't know and never dealth with.. Because you got yours cheaper!!! IMO, biguapotes price is alot cheaper that I have seen others go for, besides your bragging! If u don't know and never heard of this guy.. He pretty much the one who sells them to your local fish store ( rare cichla ) he was a major part of distributing cichla our country and all of our tanks! From way back then (dieselmack era ) till now!!! So does your lfs have that same resume? Doubtfull as it being your only first time going through him... And possibly he got you high on the thought of yours being kels.. Or as they say.. Cichla sp. Yellow:ROFL: sorry boggy, not to offend you!! But bro.. On a serious note... Not to offend you! But your bragging may lead you in a path of trouble.. So beware of the movement cuz it may catch up to you!!!! Best of luck with your kels.. I'd still pick RAPPS on any given day... Just not this christmas... Hahaha!! Happy holidays everyone!!!!
 
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