You want try aliexpress? See if it is cheaper for you and if able to ship to you
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You want try aliexpress? See if it is cheaper for you and if able to ship to you
I dont think it will get much cheaper then it is now on ebay. For my dcq10000 ive paid 80usd each including shipping taxes and all. The larger sunsuns i paid 1600sek for two cannisters and three wavemakers including shipping and delivery to my door for.
Wow, I thought you were "ending this now?"so what... there are 45 critical reviews found on fluval in 30s..... including at least 1 bad review for missing tubing......
So I see you still want to play... (at least until you arbitrarily end it again lol), OK...Well why don't you first try to improve your English reading comprehension skills lol -- please re-read my post, this time more SLOWLY: I said I "FOUND" that page of critical reviews in 30s -- lol I didn't say it took me 30s to READ all 45 reviews. In fact I read most and saw that there were both serious and not so serious concerns, just like with any other canister.
However, given the price tag on the FX6 I'm not at all impressed by its Critical-Positive Review rate -- nearly 20% -- which for the 'gold standard' of the industry is quite embarrassing imo. If anyone wants to pay nearly 2 times more for that, then again more power to them. However, thousands and thousands of peeps would prefer the Sunsun's price point to value considerations -- doesn't make them bad or stupid as you and others are seem to be trying to imply.
Btw, I've seen you harping on Sunsun canisters on other threads on the forum as well, each time extolling the virtues of the Jebao canisters which you happen to have. I'd ask you to show us all the negative reviews of your beloved Jebaos on your Chinese forums but then don't wish to further fill up the pages of this thread with gibberish 99.9% of MFK'ers can't read.
Also frankly I really don't need your Chinese reviews, most people already know Jebao and Sunsun filters are for all practical purposes the same level of quality, really no difference at all, so keep fooling yourself lol, you seem to be pretty good at it.
For your viewing pleasure (in English) here's a couple of screenshots from 1st page searches of "Jebao canister filter" and "Sunsun canister filter" on Amazon (if it makes it easier for you to understand just compare the stars, and product availability, which also represents overall popularity):
Jebao:
Sunsun:
Personally I've had 2 friends here who had major leaks with Jebao canisters (sadly ending up with dead fish, one of which was an expensive Super Red Aro). So if I were you I'd be more worried about what's in your cabinet rather than just banging on about Sunsun quality -- best start saving your money for an FX lol.
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Insofar as overall safety of canister filters, to any fish keepers who use them regardless of brand I would highly suggest the following as standard good practice:
1) Putting your canister filters in plastic totes, each with a water alarm -- any leakage and you'll get super loud audible and/or email alerts (depending on quality of water alarm). With smaller cabinets this is understandably more challenging, but you don't necessarily have to keep your canisters in your cabinet, mine do just fine on small tables behind each tank, and I can barely hear them if at all.
2) Making sure your intake line is above the minimum amount of water your fish need to survive. If a major issue your filter motor would maybe get fried, and you'll have water on your floor (just like could happen with an improperly set up sump), but your beloved fish will likely survive. This is another reason why I also use air stones and sponge filters in all tanks.
Whether I had a Sunsun, a Jebao, FX or even an Eheim I would follow these practices.
1) Putting your canister filters in plastic totes, each with a water alarm -- any leakage and you'll get super loud audible and/or email alerts (depending on quality of water alarm). With smaller cabinets this is understandably more challenging, but you don't necessarily have to keep your canisters in your cabinet, mine do just fine on small tables behind each tank, and I can barely hear them if at all.
2) Making sure your intake line is above the minimum amount of water your fish need to survive. If a major issue your filter motor would maybe get fried, and you'll have water on your floor (just like could happen with an improperly set up sump), but your beloved fish will likely survive. This is another reason why I also use air stones and sponge filters in all tanks.
Whether I had a Sunsun, a Jebao, FX or even an Eheim I would follow these practices.
the reviews were specifically chosen to highlight that what was mentioned is still happening and include purchase date and review date..... however the time it took was pretty shocking
while your point of you showing the critical reviews is just to counter that a more expensive canister has equally bad reviews... i knew i lost you then....
Really? you noticed me 'harping' on sunsun canister filters but never notice me 'promoting' sunsun UV filter, sunsun submersible pump and even sunsun aquarium salt on other threads... maybe the question is why ...
Lol, you haven't lost anybody except possibly yourself dude.
In regard to your last query...umm...maybe because this thread is about canister filters, not UV filters, submersible pumps, etc., duh. And also as to 'why'; I specifically remember you coming in with snide remarks in those canister related threads (in what had previously been positive oriented threads), just like you've been doing on this thread. When people don't appreciate your subtle comments then you try to act so innocently afterwards lol.
But now that you mention it I do remember you doing the same childish behavior on a post I made about Sianlon Arowana pellets. More snide remarks, during which laughably you embarrassingly couldn't even get the Chinese translation correct -- even Samsung's Bixby was better.
Putting all this stupid crap aside, my main points still stand, neither you or another has logically refuted a single point:
1) FX are better quality overall. For most people Sunsun represent better cost-value ratio.
2) Newer Sunsun are better quality than older Sunsun (even if they're still not perfect, there is no such thing as a perfect canister filter)
3) The newest Sunsun deserves a fair consideration before just being shot down in flames. Just because Pintos sucked does this mean we shouldn't at least consider to buy a newer model Ford??
Please stop the juvenile level discussion tactics and try to tell me where and why I'm wrong on above 3 points -- anything else is just soap opera drama.
In any case I'm sure OP is smart enough not to base their important buying decision on just one thread on MFK. Personally (unless decided to get a FX), I'd wait a bit, as also the first runs of any new product are more likely to have some issues compared to subsequent production runs.
you want others to logically refute but you can't even logically prove any of your statement....
*waiting for the next goalpost shifting
If you're wearing blinders such as you can't see the logic in my 3 points, that's your problem, not mine. But let me help you:
Regarding point 1): Kindly let me know which part I need to prove to you more logically: "FX are better quality overall." or "For most people Sunsun represent better cost-value ratio. FX being better overall is not debatable. Regarding most people thinking Sunsun are better cost-value ratio, I'm judging this based on the fact the Sunsun sell WAY WAY more of their filters than Fluval does -- do you really want to debate me on this?
Regarding point 2). Lol you're also clearly demonstrating your blatant hypocrisy insofar as improving Sunsun qualiity -- In your earlier post (#16) you say you "would say sunsun has slowly improve on quality...." So do I need to prove to you the logic of your own statement? Lol.
And of course point 3) is not provable by any measure -- this mostly comes down to one's character and how open-minded they are. And well I can't speak for those with closed, overly-biased minds, I normally don't associate with 'the glass is half empty' kind of people.
Open my previous quote for more juicy stuff if you had not done so
And to answer your current post..
Point 1) because sunsun sells more , means most deem it as value for money?
What's the market share for sunsun filters, how many bought because they can't afford fluval, how many bought because they have not heard of fluval, etc etc
Point 2) how I feel is my opinion but what you state as point 2 is implying it is a fact by asking people to logically refute when you can't even logically substantiate your statement. So no hypocrisy on that
Point 3) oh so now is about character and open mindedness, again is to your standards only.
You talk about logic, which statement is logical if you can't substantiate it with facts
Open mindedness? Please, you can't even accept a differing opinion
