Let me help with feeder fish!

[J. H.]

Boesmani rainbows are nearly as expensive and desirable as clown loaches...

 

[AnthonyFish20]

African cichlid mbuna are easy to breed just a get 1 male 3 females the fry are more developed wen they come out used to sell them for 5$ each the maingano ones are really nice yellow labs there are a bunch just make sure they are not hybrids because then they arent worth anything

 

[Deadliestviper7]

Hey guys as I posted on the breeding thread yesterday, I am looking to get into breeding as a hobby. Many of my concerns are finding people who are willing to pay the fish so I don't get over ran with fry. Also wanting to learn how to breed a fish that has a purpose so I can learn and correct what I am doing wrong before trying to breed more expensive fish. That being said would anyone be interested in me breeding fish as feeder fish on this forums? I have not seen anyone doing this yet, but have only been on the forums for about a day now and tried searching it to the best of my ability.

Now if you are interest or possibly think is worth my time instead of breeding something like jewels, endlers, or many of the other fish suggested to me in my breeding post. I would like to know which fish do many of you purchase. I will not be doing gold fish, I feel like I do not even have to explain this one. I know there are tons of other species/fish like convicts, mollies, ect... Please give me any feedback on this idea as I would like to get into breeding with easier fish they others can benefit off. Almost as a way of repaying your guys for helping me understand breeding and helping with many problems that may come up.

Ideas that I have already thought of is documenting the fish I will be selling so everybody knows what has been done and the care they have been given. I would like to find people interested in the fish before hand but do not want them to back on me for their feeder supply, as I stated I am new to breeding and anything could happen with a newbie like me at the start.

Some information about me: I am 20 years old and have always wanted to get into this type of hobby but have never really had the money for it. I am currently going to college, but commute from my home. This will allow me to speed plenty of time with the fish to do correct water changes and documenting everything. Lastly, I am a new at this so I am here to learn from the masters while I am here.

I would like to thank you in advance!
Hutch

Breed some mix of the following in outdoor ponds or intex pools
(Some of these fish will need to be taken in in winter,I list seasonal by these fish)
Hornyhead chubs(Large feeders)
Lake chubsuckers (large feeders)
Celestial danios (small feeders,seasonal)
Endlers(small feeders,seasonal)
Gymnogeophagus brasilinsis (sell fry while small).
Bluegill (sell small fry,breeds multiple times yearly, very good feeders when small).
Ricefish (small,seasonal)
Golden shiners(small/medium)
Neolamprophagus brichardii (small seasonal).
Mayfly larvae (small)
Leopard frogs (small to medium tadpoles,excellent fish food).
Cricket frogs (small).

 

[Deadliestviper7]

Hey guys as I posted on the breeding thread yesterday, I am looking to get into breeding as a hobby. Many of my concerns are finding people who are willing to pay the fish so I don't get over ran with fry. Also wanting to learn how to breed a fish that has a purpose so I can learn and correct what I am doing wrong before trying to breed more expensive fish. That being said would anyone be interested in me breeding fish as feeder fish on this forums? I have not seen anyone doing this yet, but have only been on the forums for about a day now and tried searching it to the best of my ability.

Now if you are interest or possibly think is worth my time instead of breeding something like jewels, endlers, or many of the other fish suggested to me in my breeding post. I would like to know which fish do many of you purchase. I will not be doing gold fish, I feel like I do not even have to explain this one. I know there are tons of other species/fish like convicts, mollies, ect... Please give me any feedback on this idea as I would like to get into breeding with easier fish they others can benefit off. Almost as a way of repaying your guys for helping me understand breeding and helping with many problems that may come up.

Ideas that I have already thought of is documenting the fish I will be selling so everybody knows what has been done and the care they have been given. I would like to find people interested in the fish before hand but do not want them to back on me for their feeder supply, as I stated I am new to breeding and anything could happen with a newbie like me at the start.

Some information about me: I am 20 years old and have always wanted to get into this type of hobby but have never really had the money for it. I am currently going to college, but commute from my home. This will allow me to speed plenty of time with the fish to do correct water changes and documenting everything. Lastly, I am a new at this so I am here to learn from the masters while I am here.

I would like to thank you in advance!
Hutch

Breed some mix of the following in outdoor ponds or intex pools
(Some of these fish will need to be taken in in winter,I list seasonal by these fish)
Hornyhead chubs(Large feeders)
Lake chubsuckers (large feeders)
Celestial danios (small feeders,seasonal)
Endlers(small feeders,seasonal)
Gymnogeophagus brasilinsis (sell fry while small).
Bluegill (sell small fry,breeds multiple times yearly, very good feeders when small).
Ricefish (small,seasonal)
Golden shiners(small/medium)
Neolamprophagus brichardii (small seasonal).
Mayfly larvae (small)
Leopard frogs (small to medium tadpoles,excellent fish food).
Cricket frogs (small).

 

[RedneckHutch]

Good, I'm happy to see that you aren't rushing into things like some people do.

Thank you! I know rushing into this hobby will cause a lot of mistakes to be made.

Also by the way, if you're looking to make a bit of money then look into breeding snails such as ramshorn. Lots of people buy them for puffer food and such.

I never knew why everyone wanted ramshorn snails, I’ll give those some thought for a smaller tank idea. Thanks for the input

I would probably skip breeding feeder fish... coz depending how much people sell feeders for in your area, you’ll most likely end up losing money by the end of it due to cost of running equipment / raising fry and feeding them till they are sold...

Instead maybe see whats high in demand for your area and see if you can fill the void, but make sure not to burn yourself out... coz a lot of people do stuff like this hoping to off set some of the costs in the hobby only to find they are adding more strain on themselves rather than taking any off due to the extra commitment...

I have heard this by many people. I was really seeing if there was a demand for feeder fish in this community. I understand I will need large pools to even make a statement in the long run. I also want to take it slow so I don’t get burned out.

Plus I doubt he could compete with store bought feeders. The breeders are breeding on a massive scale and can sell at a much lower cost.

yeah, I agree. I saw people using huge pools growing 1000s everyday.

I have eastern gambusia in every water container that isnt housing koi or goldfish. Costs me nothing to keep them. I don't feed them or run filtration for them and they only get heat in the winter if its going to get cold enough to freeze the containers. I do keep all the containers planted though. I get a few dollars here and there selling them to a local pond store and I give about 100 a month to another aquarim friend as feeders but its nothing I'd consider profitable even as low tech as I'm doing it.

Shipping feeders isnt really worth the trouble unless you're sending several hundred at a time.

What you want to do would be fun in theory but is impractical in practice.

that’s really interesting! I agree it is impractical after comparing the prices with wholesalers.

 

[Deadliestviper7]

I'll explain how a small provider makes money selling feeders.

Large dealers sell fish by large trucks,taking a long looping route to sell to bait shops,however if one of the bait shops runs out, they can't just call the truck back quickly because that'd cost to much, this is where you come in to offer baitfish between shipments, be sure to leave your number/contact info at the store so they can call you as needed

 

[RedneckHutch]

Just curious, how long have you been keeping fish op?

I havent really kept anything big in years. I’m starting to get into it more as I can spend more on the hobby. I would consider my self a newbie as I still have much to learn.

Breed me some clown loach, i'll buy everything you raise, guaranteed. If you can breed them darn things you can breed anything.

Joking aside. Some fish are that easy to breed they'll breed whether you want them too or not, unfortunately I don't think you'd have people fighting each other to buy these type of fish from you.

You'd need to concentrate on a few oddball breeds that are:

a) much sought after by hobbyists, giving you a ready market.
b) difficult to breed so you know that said market isn't being over run.
c) expensive to buy so you're really maximising your earning potential.

The clown loach example I gave in jest is possibly the wholly grail of fish breeding. Everybody wants clown loach, especially 5" plus specimens, they're virtually impossible to breed in captivity and they absolutely cost a fortune, even for tiny specimens.

Personally my advice to you though, taking into consideration you're so young, would be just to enjoy the hobby and get some years of experience under your belt before you take the leap into breeding the types of fish you'd need to breed to sustain a business.

Thanks for the advice! I think I am going to get into breeding other fish into feeder fish.

1. Breed clown loaches
2. Raise all the babies for a decade.
3. Sell the now huge clown loaches
4. Massive profit
Lol

Lol

Breed some mix of the following in outdoor ponds or intex pools
(Some of these fish will need to be taken in in winter,I list seasonal by these fish)
Hornyhead chubs(Large feeders)
Lake chubsuckers (large feeders)
Celestial danios (small feeders,seasonal)
Endlers(small feeders,seasonal)
Gymnogeophagus brasilinsis (sell fry while small).
Bluegill (sell small fry,breeds multiple times yearly, very good feeders when small).
Ricefish (small,seasonal)
Golden shiners(small/medium)
Neolamprophagus brichardii (small seasonal).
Mayfly larvae (small)
Leopard frogs (small to medium tadpoles,excellent fish food).
Cricket frogs (small).

you always have a list of fish you can provide thanks for the list again! Sadly, I don’t think I will be getting into feeder fish at this time. I may do snails but that’s it.

 

[RedneckHutch]

I'll explain how a small provider makes money selling feeders.

Large dealers sell fish by large trucks,taking a long looping route to sell to bait shops,however if one of the bait shops runs out, they can't just call the truck back quickly because that'd cost to much, this is where you come in to offer baitfish between shipments, be sure to leave your number/contact info at the store so they can call you as needed

I agree with you on this one, but making it worth my time I feel as if I should get into breeding something else then feeders.

 

[Deadliestviper7]

I havent really kept anything big in years. I’m starting to get into it more as I can spend more on the hobby. I would consider my self a newbie as I still have much to learn.

Thanks for the advice! I think I am going to get into breeding other fish into feeder fish.

Lol
you always have a list of fish you can provide thanks for the list again! Sadly, I don’t think I will be getting into feeder fish at this time. I may do snails but that’s it.

Nerites are profitable.

Get two 20 to 30 gallon tanks set up, do one freshwater and the other salt.

Place little bits of driftwood in the freshwater tank with adult nerites.
When you see eggs on the driftwood take that driftwood piece and place it in the saltwater, they will hatch and turn into baby snails in saltwater, feed the babies crumbled pieces of algae wafers until the babies grow enough that you can see the shine on their sells, then you can aclimate them to fresh or brackish water.

Some nerites sell very well such as zebra nerites.

 

[Deadliestviper7]

I agree with you on this one, but making it worth my time I feel as if I should get into breeding something else then feeders.

How about :
Mascara barbs and celestial danios?
Plus Christmas fulu.
Beautiful colors,sell easy,smaller size, and prices that will make you money.