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I could not believe what I was reading when I saw this thread. I am assuming MFK is an American site with American values, however I felt like I was in some autocratic third world country when I read this thread. What ever happened to 'Freedom of Speech'?

The right to freedom of speech is recognized as a human right under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). The ICCPR recognizes the right to freedom of speech as "the right to hold opinions without interference”. Everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression". Furthermore freedom of speech is recognized in European, American and African regional human rights law.

Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and by many state constitutions and state and federal laws. In the United States the First Amendment to the Bill of Rights also affirms that, 'Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...'. Obviously, there are a number restrictions to speech in particular circumstances. These usually include contempt, obscenity law, blasphemy and racial vilification.

To further support my argument, I have researched some American case law. In a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court extended the full protection of the First Amendment to the Internet in Reno v. ACLU, a decision which struck down portions of the 1996 Communications Decency Act, a law intended to outlaw so-called "indecent" online communication (that is, non-obscene material protected by the First Amendment). The court's decision identified the Internet as a "free speech zone," and extended the same Constitutional protections given to books, magazines, films, and spoken expression to materials published on the Internet. Congress tried a second time to regulate the content of the Internet with the Child Online Protection Act (COPA). The Court again ruled that any limitations on the internet were unconstitutional in American Civil Liberties Union v. Ashcroft (2002).
 
Robert_Lu999;3008929; said:
I could not believe what I was reading when I saw this thread. I am assuming MFK is an American site with American values, however I felt like I was in some autocratic third world country when I read this thread. What ever happened to 'Freedom of Speech'?

So which of these four behaviors that will NOT be tolerated are infringing on your so called "Freedom of Speech"?

1.Flaming/trolls.
2.Insulting others.
3.Obscene or vulgar language
4.Questions on acquiring, selling, or keeping of illegal species.
 
Robert_Lu999;3008929; said:
I could not believe what I was reading when I saw this thread. I am assuming MFK is an American site with American values, however I felt like I was in some autocratic third world country when I read this thread. What ever happened to 'Freedom of Speech'?

The right to freedom of speech is recognized as a human right under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). The ICCPR recognizes the right to freedom of speech as "the right to hold opinions without interference”. Everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression". Furthermore freedom of speech is recognized in European, American and African regional human rights law.

Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and by many state constitutions and state and federal laws. In the United States the First Amendment to the Bill of Rights also affirms that, 'Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...'. Obviously, there are a number restrictions to speech in particular circumstances. These usually include contempt, obscenity law, blasphemy and racial vilification.

To further support my argument, I have researched some American case law. In a 9-0 decision, the Supreme Court extended the full protection of the First Amendment to the Internet in Reno v. ACLU, a decision which struck down portions of the 1996 Communications Decency Act, a law intended to outlaw so-called "indecent" online communication (that is, non-obscene material protected by the First Amendment). The court's decision identified the Internet as a "free speech zone," and extended the same Constitutional protections given to books, magazines, films, and spoken expression to materials published on the Internet. Congress tried a second time to regulate the content of the Internet with the Child Online Protection Act (COPA). The Court again ruled that any limitations on the internet were unconstitutional in American Civil Liberties Union v. Ashcroft (2002).

This is a privately owned site. Therefore, there are rules to follow aka Terms of Service.
 
There's a time and a place for everything, however when people post for the simple fact of heckling/flaming/trolling; there will be moderation.

I mean....can you imagine going up to an important political figure and just saying something like, "You're a (censor)." And not have any type of repercussion? I'm sure you don't cuss or swear at family or relatives and claim the "freedom of speech" right.
 
jmotion;3009232; said:
I mean....can you imagine going up to an important political figure and just saying something like, "You're a (censor)." And not have any type of repercussion? I'm sure you don't cuss or swear at family or relatives and claim the "freedom of speech" right.

:ROFL:
 
Benjamin - Everything is not as Black and White as you think. Constitutional rights, federal and state laws apply to private and public entities.
jmotion - I do agree with you, however it is actually the opposite. I'm not sure if you have ever seen/heard a hearing at the full house of reprentatives, they actually name call and flame at each other non-stop. In particular with the asian countries, many fights occur. You will find that in alot of cases, we are allowed to flame our president/prime minister's actions/views (in western countries) but we are not allowed to flame in a website which is a form of expression? I do understand your point, where do we draw the line.
 
Your membership here is a privilege, not a right therefore there is no freedom of speech here. You pledged to abide by the forum rules of a privately owned site once you join here.
 
Actually When you or anyone joins a website theres a membership agreement (TOS)
that they are supposed to read and understand and agree to.This TOS covers the points I mentioned that YOU as a member agreed to.If you have a problem with those 4 simple rules which basicly boil down to common courtesy I'm sorry.As has been stated if used responsibly and within the limits of the TOS you agreed to there is plenty of freedom of sppech.And as you mentioned theres a right to freedom of speech but with that right comes responsibilty,-Anne(who posted the 4 simple rules)

from your own post''Obviously, there are a number restrictions to speech in particular circumstances. These usually include contempt, obscenity law, blasphemy and racial vilification.''kinda sound like 3 out of the four simple rules
 
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