LMB and foods other than pellets and shrimp!

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Ok there has been alot of debate on the subject lately. I figured I would start a thread here so we can leave other threads alone and stop sidetracking. First off I would like to state my opinion: I think that if a bass is big enough and the food item is small enough I don't see any problems in it eating ANY kind of animal(besides the obvious ones that are poison). LMB get a wide variety of food in the wild and eat everything from other fish, to ducks and turtles. Also I do not see why it is such a big deal to feed a mouse to a bass as long as it is small enough to be completly swallowed. Many people feed feeder fish to thier preds that are too big and stick out of thier mouths for minutes, even hours and sometimes are even still alive (I will even admit to this). Please try and keep it clean and state your opinion on the subject!

Chad
 
Mine eats mostly pellets, but i would feed a mouse if I caught a live one.
 
Mine also eats mostly bloodworm and shrimp. Sometimes the occassional live fish. I don't think I would have a problem feeding mine a mouse either...

Chad
 
Ok there has been alot of debate on the subject lately. I figured I would start a thread here so we can leave other threads alone and stop sidetracking. First off I would like to state my opinion: I think that if a bass is big enough and the food item is small enough I don't see any problems in it eating ANY kind of animal(besides the obvious ones that are poison). LMB get a wide variety of food in the wild and eat everything from other fish, to ducks and turtles. Also I do not see why it is such a big deal to feed a mouse to a bass as long as it is small enough to be completly swallowed. Many people feed feeder fish to thier preds that are too big and stick out of thier mouths for minutes, even hours and sometimes are even still alive (I will even admit to this). Please try and keep it clean and state your opinion on the subject!

Chad

First lets show people why you say this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXsRSdITzBs

You mean to tell me that you watched this video and made this post??

You say any kind of animal right? What about feeding small children to alligators ? Last I saw children aren't poisonous. You might say "well your nuts comparing a mouse to a human" and I'd agree but I'd also call you nuts for comparing a fish to a mammal.

The simple fact is he made that mouse suffer for no apparent reason. If he wanted to kill the mouse in a humane way and then feed it to the bass then I would be so offended. I think intentional drowning a mouse that's obviously way too big for a fish is simply irresponsible. Then this guy has to teach his children how to torture animals.

If this guy wanted to take that very same mouse and feed it to a snake, I would be all for it.
Sorry but this simply breaks the moral code that should exist in all of us. We're here to make a nice place for creatures to live and be healthy, not watch the last breath of a helpless mouse.

If enough of this stuff goes on, you'll see laws enacted stopping the inhumane treatment of all animals in the home aquaria. With the way legislators behave these days, we'll all suffer from the actions of a kid that isn't even old enough to vote.

If you feed live mice to be a tough guy or to show how yough your fish is then please don't take videos of it and don't post about it in a public forum. It simply doesn't do our hobby any good.
 
I don't think I would have a problem feeding mine a mouse either...

After watching that video you'd still feed a live mouse to your bad bass?
 
I am all for diversity in the diet of aquaria fish but some foods just aren't necessary for the long term health of our fish and in fact can have negative effects. Mammals are nasty in terms of fish food, they have a high fat content and are very messy. I have fed little bits of meat to my turtle before and it leaves the most nasty looking film on the water surface, I cannot imagine what an entire duckling or mouse would do. Most fish, being cold blooded, don't digest the meat of warm blooded animals very well. The fat ends up stored in the liver and the result...fatty liver disease. Also, with all the fish foods produced today saying "I want to feed my bass a mouse because it's natural" is just an excuse to watch it kill something. Mice do not make up a large part of a wild bass's diet. On top of all the different pellets, frozen foods and freeze dried foods there are other live foods that are more natural. Crayfish, worms, insects, properly maintained feeder fish even. If you must feed your fish something alive these are the things to use, insects are 80% protein...much more healthy then some fatty, hairy mouse. If you're trying to maintain a natural lifestyle for your fish I would suggest putting in through a cool wintering period, allowing it to spawn, giving it enough territory to roam in, matching the water with that from where in came from...all of that would be better for your fish then a mouse being tossed into the tank. Some say it's healthy...it's not healthy. Just because a bass might take the oppertunity to eat a duckling or mouse in the wild does not mean it needs to be a part of it's diet or even should be. A bass does not know what's healthy, they eat to survive and won't pass up a "free meal". After they eat said meal they spend their day burning it off by protecting their territory, spawning, evading predators or chasing more food...something a LMB in a 4-6' pampered tank does not have to do. They don't burn off the meal the same way and instead the opposite of your intentions happen, the fish becomes unhealthy. There is simply no single good reason to feed these animals to your fish, bass or otherwise. Everything anyone will say is just an excuse to try and justify what's really on their mind, aquatic blood sport. Cat's eat mice but guess what my cats eat...cat food and i'm sure everyone who has cats feeds them the same. You don't go out and buy feeder mice for your cat, or rabbits for your dog so you most certainly don't need to do it for a bass.
 
After watching that video you'd still feed a live mouse to your bad bass?

Never said I agree with that video. I do think that it was wrong that he fed it a mouse that big. It could obviously not finish it and that was apparent from the beginning. I am saying that what is the harm in feeding a 12" bass a 1" pinkie mouse. One gulp, its all over! No pain no suffering. And I don't see where you get off making it ok to make a fish suffer but a mouse...that is just plain terrible. I do not understand that. A life is a life one is just as valuable as the next. You can honestly say though that you would be sickened by the sight of a 12" bass gulping down a itty bitty pinkie mouse in one bite? Also I would probably never feed my bass a mouse personally. It is not very healthy for the fish in the first place as stated above and it just isn't my kind of thing. BUT I could not say honestly that I would be sickened at the site of a little mouse being gulped down by a LMB. Infact it would probably be a boring site to see. I would much rather see my bass chase a couple feeders or play with a nice long earthworm. Anyways this was not started on the intent that it was enjoyable to watch a LMB down a mouse. And I do not think that if a bass was properly maintaned that a mouse would really hurt it in the long run. I would never feed a bass more than a mouse in a year atleast. I know it takes a long time for them to burn off the mammal fat. I would probably go as far as saying I would feed it maybe one in a whole LIFETIME. I do believe that bass are built for more mammal protein than a normal fish otherwise they would not eat them in the wild. Just like some insects/herbivores won't eat a plant they know is poisonous. They know what they can and can't eat.

Chad
 
After watching that video you'd still feed a live mouse to your bad bass?

Also...never claimed to have a BAD bass. My bass is quite small infact and pretty friendly. 5"

Chad
 
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