got a 6" form shawn awhile back i could never get her to eat anything other than worms had for a yr died with no obvious signs. now recently got one from friend says been in captivity for i think 2 yrs but it also wouldn't eat other foods. shortly after i got her she turned into a eating machine doing great in a 480 by her self. no drip about 80 just lowered temp to 78 50% water change once a week ph 6.5 hoping to keep for along time we will see. question what size do they really start to show ther true colors?