Rusty has not had a spawn in several years, he has several tanks of them, Mo's has spawned only once to my knowledge, he has several males and one female. Jeff gets his from the same place I do, I also know Conkel recently bought 400. Eddie Martin set up a pond with 6 pairs from our collecting trip on the farm in Florida he rents space from and this is the only commerical production. I manage to get 50 from him every month or so. I'm sure with time as more get in the hobby more people will be successeful with them. Ken