R.D., plesase don't take offense to this but as a Canadian distributor of NLS, you are turing me off to the brand by trying to disprove the quality of the competition's product. I so want to give NLS a try next time I need to stock up on food but I feel like I'm getting beaten over the head with these types of posts.
Making the switch to NLS.
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Perhaps you missed this in my previous comment:
Many hobbyists actually do want to learn, and understand this "stuff" better, others don't care, or would prefer to bury their head in the sand.
I'm certainly not holding a gun to anyones head & forcing them to read my comments.
Someone asked why those reps never showed up. It's because you can't argue with facts.
edited to add: No offense taken.
Many hobbyists actually do want to learn, and understand this "stuff" better, others don't care, or would prefer to bury their head in the sand.
I'm certainly not holding a gun to anyones head & forcing them to read my comments.
Someone asked why those reps never showed up. It's because you can't argue with facts.
edited to add: No offense taken.
RD.;4439105; said:
Many hobbyists do want to learn and so do I. That is why I'm here participating on this board just like many others. My personal feeling is that the pellete debate has taking on a life of its own and needs to calm down a bit. I saw the thread in the Hikari section and over the last few months my desire to try NLS has fallen. It's gotten to the point that I feel like I buying a "used car". There's so much pressure on what food to use, especially NLS. To me, threads like this and the Massivoire thread in the Hikari section have turned into a war. Maybe it's just me and noone else feels this way. I just thought that you'd want to know seeing as you have a vested interest in NLS.
A war? A little dramatic don't you think? lol
I asked a simple direct question on the massivore thread, which got blown waaaay out of proportion. (and certainly not by me)
Seriously, if this topic bothers you that much then simply hit the back button. End of problem. And FYI - I have never, and will never, sell anything to anyone of MFK, so what anyone thinks about my no nonsense approach to this subject has zero effect on me. Next to the manufacturer himself, I know more about this product than anyone else on the planet, which is why I often weigh in on these types of discussions.
I have also been doing so for years before I had any type of vested interest in any brand of food. This isn't about money.
I asked a simple direct question on the massivore thread, which got blown waaaay out of proportion. (and certainly not by me)
Seriously, if this topic bothers you that much then simply hit the back button. End of problem. And FYI - I have never, and will never, sell anything to anyone of MFK, so what anyone thinks about my no nonsense approach to this subject has zero effect on me. Next to the manufacturer himself, I know more about this product than anyone else on the planet, which is why I often weigh in on these types of discussions.
I have also been doing so for years before I had any type of vested interest in any brand of food. This isn't about money.
whoa guys chillllllll
it is just fish food
hey chromo, not trying to flame you but just look at the ingredients and the rusults and decide whats best for your customers stock dont worry about he said she said, as long as you make the decision on your own who cares what anyone suggested or said about th efood you chose. there will never be a single product that everyone likes 100% ever. everyone has there own ideas and opinions and thats the way the world turns
i wish a store around here would carry nls so i can try it. i use dianichi now and massivore but it sounds like nls is alot more worried about the product than the fancy shiny foil package and bright pictures on the label. fish cant eat shiney foil or bright labels well they could but i dont think it would benifit them in any way
it is just fish food
hey chromo, not trying to flame you but just look at the ingredients and the rusults and decide whats best for your customers stock
dont worry about he said she said, as long as you make the decision on your own who cares what anyone suggested or said about th efood you chose. there will never be a single product that everyone likes 100% ever. everyone has there own ideas and opinions and thats the way the world turns i wish a store around here would carry nls so i can try it. i use dianichi now and massivore but it sounds like nls is alot more worried about the product than the fancy shiny foil package and bright pictures on the label. fish cant eat shiney foil or bright labels
well they could but i dont think it would benifit them in any wayRD.;4439235; said:
Lol, not wanting to use NLS because of a few random threads on a forum?
Dramatic prairie dog agrees with you.
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balton777;4439362; said:
Wish I could see this cause I'm sure it's funny. For what ever reason it didn't work on my screen.
My point and I'm sure it's not as clear as it could be on a keyboard is that I think people over think fish food a bit too much and are worried about ingredients more than need be. It seems NLS is being pushed hard here on MFK like it's some kind of wonder drug. I'm sure I'll get flamed because I'm going against the grain, but who cares, it's Fri before a holiday week-end and I'm at work bored to death.
In the end I'll end up trying NLS because my philosophy is to feed as much of a varied diet to my fish as possible so I'm always trying new stuff. This topic doesn't bother me that much that I need to avoid it. I'm just voicing my opinion.
I have never used NLS, but I question the whole better pellet food argument. I am running 19 freshwater tanks with a diverse range of species. Cost is the number one factor in my choice for their pellet food. I usually stock up during sales! The only higher dollar pellet fish food that I have tried was the Hikari Bio-gold.
This was one of only two brands of pellet (the other being Top-Fin Large) that there was a noticable DISLIKE for with the majority of the species. That is the highest priced stuff and stuff on the lower end both avoided.
If I were to put a "most aggressively eaten" tag to any dry fish food, it would be what most of you consider total trash junk (Tetra Color Crisps)!
The only reason that I use pellet food at all is to help defer the cost of feeding my pets. It is cheaper that using market seafood exclusively.
I am a relative newbie to the hobby though (under two years), and almost all of my fish are in some juvenile stage. I would hope that my juvenile fish are nowhere near as stupid as Human children, but if you apply the "food most attracted to" principle to them, then I guess that McDonalds and sweets are the "best food" for Humans!
This was one of only two brands of pellet (the other being Top-Fin Large) that there was a noticable DISLIKE for with the majority of the species. That is the highest priced stuff and stuff on the lower end both avoided.
If I were to put a "most aggressively eaten" tag to any dry fish food, it would be what most of you consider total trash junk (Tetra Color Crisps)!
The only reason that I use pellet food at all is to help defer the cost of feeding my pets. It is cheaper that using market seafood exclusively.
I am a relative newbie to the hobby though (under two years), and almost all of my fish are in some juvenile stage. I would hope that my juvenile fish are nowhere near as stupid as Human children, but if you apply the "food most attracted to" principle to them, then I guess that McDonalds and sweets are the "best food" for Humans!
LMAO @ the gopher vid. 
Chromo - I fail to see NLS being "pushed", on this forum, or any other.
Are a lot of consumers happy with the results, obviously, as New Life has no sales reps, no marketing agents, and spends pretty much zero $ on advertising, yet somehow has managed to have grown to a world-wide corporation, with distributors in countries around the globe, even in places such as Israel, Turkey, and India. Go figure?
And yet it still remains a family owned & operated business.
The owner is 71 yrs old, has been working in the aquaculture industry for the past 40 or so odd years, and could have cashed out to one of the mega pet food corporations a long time ago if $$ was his incentive in all of this. It's not like he hasn't been approached.
screamin - certainly for some people cost is everything, especially in today's economy, in which case I would recommend buying your food in bulk directly from a feed mill. Having said that, like most things in life, a major reduction in price usually comes with a major reduction in overall quality. Don't expect to get a Mercedes Benz, at the price of a Hyundai.
Chromo - I fail to see NLS being "pushed", on this forum, or any other.
Are a lot of consumers happy with the results, obviously, as New Life has no sales reps, no marketing agents, and spends pretty much zero $ on advertising, yet somehow has managed to have grown to a world-wide corporation, with distributors in countries around the globe, even in places such as Israel, Turkey, and India. Go figure?
And yet it still remains a family owned & operated business.
The owner is 71 yrs old, has been working in the aquaculture industry for the past 40 or so odd years, and could have cashed out to one of the mega pet food corporations a long time ago if $$ was his incentive in all of this. It's not like he hasn't been approached.
screamin - certainly for some people cost is everything, especially in today's economy, in which case I would recommend buying your food in bulk directly from a feed mill. Having said that, like most things in life, a major reduction in price usually comes with a major reduction in overall quality. Don't expect to get a Mercedes Benz, at the price of a Hyundai.
RD.;4439519; said:LMAO @ the gopher vid.
Chromo - I fail to see NLS being "pushed", on this forum, or any other.
Are a lot of consumers happy with the results, obviously, as New Life has no sales reps, no marketing agents, and spends pretty much zero $ on advertising, yet somehow has managed to have grown to a world-wide corporation, with distributors in countries around the globe, even in places such as Israel, Turkey, and India. Go figure?
And yet it still remains a family owned & operated business.
The owner is 71 yrs old, has been working in the aquaculture industry for the past 40 or so odd years, and could have cashed out to one of the mega pet food corporations a long time ago if $$ was his incentive in all of this. It's not like he hasn't been approached.
screamin - certainly for some people cost is everything, especially in today's economy, in which case I would recommend buying your food in bulk directly from a feed mill. Having said that, like most things in life, a major reduction in price usually comes with a major reduction in overall quality. Don't expect to get a Mercedes Benz, at the price of a Hyundai.
I agree totally. I guess my main point is that I am using fresh seafood as a staple diet for the majority of my species. Is pelletized food considered better quality then fresh seafood (Fish fillets, scallop, shrimp etc...)?
It is only an observation, but IMO it appears that the fish digest the meat far slower and comlpetely then they do the pellet food. I am not sure if that is better or worse, but I do know that in nature the pellet is not an option for the species.
As much as I hate to admit it, AND I DO SO despise giving the cheaters ANY crediance, the truth of the matter is that they ARE correct in the vitamin/ needle thing.
I use to laugh and carry on degrading the roiders in sports when the "I thought it was vitamin B12 that was being injected into my butt" excuse was pulled after a positive test result! I can't give exact numbers, but the extreme vast majority of the nutrient ingested in vitamin pills is either digested or excreted throu the liver into the urine and passed through the body unused. The exact opposite is the case with the injection method!
Again, I am a newbie, and by no means should be taken as an expert in the field, but it is food for thought and discussion!
