Male Pink Con or Hybrid?

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That is just a regular pink convict. Some look like this with the patchy sides. I have seen black and pink convicts with these marks. The black convicts with these marks are sometimes called copper convicts. The elongated mouth is typical of some convicts, but not all.
 
nice and think it has may be rd
 
Unless you know the breeder, this is all speculation. I have had and seen pink cons step away from the norm.


How are "all" LFS pink cons hybrids?
 
LFS cons are most likely hybrids because the fish that was once known as Archocentrus nigrofasciatus is now four different species (and a new genus, Amatitlania): A. siquia, nigrofasciata, kanna and coatepeque.

Anyone know which species of "convict" went into producing the pink ones? Not likely...nor was it a concern.

Matt

Unless you know the breeder, this is all speculation. I have had and seen pink cons step away from the norm.


How are "all" LFS pink cons hybrids?
 
i have a RD right now, its got the same high body and a similar jaw structure, okay now imagine I got these 2 of my fish to breed
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look at their body and face shapes, I´m pretty sure what you have there is a ConxRD/Midas hybrid. they arent that rare but definately not see them all the time. cool looking fish
 
LFS cons are most likely hybrids because the fish that was once known as Archocentrus nigrofasciatus is now four different species (and a new genus, Amatitlania): A. siquia, nigrofasciata, kanna and coatepeque.

Anyone know which species of "convict" went into producing the pink ones? Not likely...nor was it a concern.

Matt

Well not everyone recognizes the new genus Amatitlania......the Cichlid Room Companion does not, for at least the last 2 years, and lists the convicts as Cryptoheros species.

A convict is such an easy fish to breed, it is quite conceivable that aquarium strain convicts owe their ancestory to only one importation.I don't think the history of convict importation is well known, so who knows for sure? Yes, in more recent times, there are wild caught from many locations, but for many decades, virtually nothing was being imported from Central America.

It's certainly conceivable that aquarium strain convicts are Cryptoheros siquia or Cryptoheros nigrofasciata. Less likely C. coatepeque since they only come from one lake; somewhat less likely C. kanna, I would think for a number of reasons, including, from what I understand, they are not as easily bred. That aquarium strain convicts are a mix of these species assumes that they were originally imported from a number of very different locations, and that the resulting crosses continued on to this day .....rather then a single importation of a very easily bred fish that took over the market.

Anyways, no different then just about any aquarium strain cichlid...they could be a cross of closely related species. Some probably are....some probably not. Just another example: 3 species of JD described (Rocio octafacita, R. octocal, R. gemmeta)......aquarium strain JD could be a mix of these species as we do not know where aquarium strain JD originate from.
 
Nothing seems to be definitive here. I guess I will continue to photograph "Pinky" and see what everyone thinks after he's grown a bit more.
 
Nothing seems to be definitive here. I guess I will continue to photograph "Pinky" and see what everyone thinks after he's grown a bit more.

Well, who knows for sure! I think it is a somewhat odd convict. It's snout gives some sort of reason to think RD/midas. But i really doubt it. It's actual mouth is 100% convict. All kinds of convitcs out there after over 100 years in captivity! Give it some time and i think most of everyone will see it as a convict!
 
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