Man & Wife get fired, kill all their kids

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frnchjeep;2708222;2708222 said:
I guess I didn't know the whole story...I thought it was relevent. I guess not. Sorry.


You are absolutely correct. This is what I am trying to say. Things have been much worse. There is a good posibility that things will get much worse. And how many people have died as a result. And how many will still?


I agree that he was out of his mind. I've said that a couple times already. However, it could get to a point where help just isn't available any more. This guy didn't know or not because (what we know from the story) he didn't try. Maybe he could have found help. With all the people out of work and without homes, "help" is spread pretty thin these days. I can tell you that a little less than a year ago, I was injured and out of work for 10 weeks unexpectedly. I came dangerously close to losing my apartment, my truck, and the wife's car. Things can unravel fast. I wasn't ready to kill anyone, but it was tough. And I don't even have any kids. It's got to be a desperate feeling... I definatly don't condone what he did, but I can honestly say from my heart, that he shouldn't be 100% blamed for what happened. He could have been a great guy that went crazy as a result of the cards he was dealt. I'm sorry we don't see eye to eye on this. This will be my last post in this thread. I don't want to argue with you guys, I just wish you all were able to look at it from another point of view.
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lol i love how to try to rationalize this murder-suicide. and he shouldnt be blamed 100% for this? so who is to blame? his employer? the economy (seems to be everybodys excuse these days) his neigbhors for not being there for him when times got tough? pres. Bush? God? his wife? his cable guy?

you see where im going with this? people need to stop with the finger pointing and blame shifting. he is 110% absolutely to blame for all this. its cut-dry black n white; theres no gray area
 
jcardona1;2708620; said:
lol i love how to try to rationalize this murder-suicide. and he shouldnt be blamed 100% for this? so who is to blame? his employer? the economy (seems to be everybodys excuse these days) his neigbhors for not being there for him when times got tough? pres. Bush? God? his wife? his cable guy?

you see where im going with this? people need to stop with the finger pointing and blame shifting. he is 110% absolutely to blame for all this. its cut-dry black n white; theres no gray area
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I know that I said I was done, but I hate having words put in my mouth (or fingers). Who blamed someone? He did...his boss. I didn't. Hell, I didn't even blame the person with the trigger finger. I just chalked the whole thing up to a victim of the times. One of many more to come, im sure. Your right, it all comes down to him and his decisions. He was crazy. Thats it. Like Liz said; It was a hideous act, no matter how you look at it.
 
sorry, wasnt trying to put words in your mouth. but you did say "he shouldnt be 100% blamed" so i assumed you though somebody else was to blame as well.

anyway, its obvious this dude wasnt well in the head. millions lost their jobs in '08, and they didnt go and kill their families.

that is all
 
those poor children. i cant imagine what their last moments were like-truly sad.
 
What is even more sad is that fact that people continue to abuse the welfare system while certain people like this think there is no way out to the point of total distruction. Ironic isn't it?
 
AroW;2709585;2709585 said:
What is even more sad is that fact that people continue to abuse the welfare system while certain people like this think there is no way out to the point of total distruction. Ironic isn't it?
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thats a very good point. sad but true
 
"Sign of the times"......"Sign of the times"......GET THE F OVER IT! There is no "times" to blame here. There is no economic responsibility. There is no sick, twisted, sadistic employer to blame. The guy murdered his entire family............MURDERED. I'm sure the thousands of murderers locked up nation wide would love to have such a simple excuse as "the times". I was disgusted to read this. It's terrible, tragic, and inexcusable. But to be totally honest, it infuriates me that much more to hear everybody crying about the economy, and blaming every down moment of society on it. There are so many more good things going on, hopeful inclines and attempts, yet everyone seems to only see they dark (even though it never seems to have anything to do with the economy). Did no one read that they were fired for using the company to the favor and advancement of their own family? Guess not, the economy and the times had the blinds drawn. If I were to lose my job, whether to "the times" or to my own stupid ass (like these people), I'd do whatever it took to SAVE my family, not kill them. I'd be at McD's, Burger King, and Taco Bell.....all at the same time. The cowardly road is to put yourself in a box.
 
pdbrady;2709955;2709955 said:
"Sign of the times"......"Sign of the times"......GET THE F OVER IT! There is no "times" to blame here. There is no economic responsibility. There is no sick, twisted, sadistic employer to blame. The guy murdered his entire family............MURDERED. I'm sure the thousands of murderers locked up nation wide would love to have such a simple excuse as "the times". I was disgusted to read this. It's terrible, tragic, and inexcusable. But to be totally honest, it infuriates me that much more to hear everybody crying about the economy, and blaming every down moment of society on it. There are so many more good things going on, hopeful inclines and attempts, yet everyone seems to only see they dark (even though it never seems to have anything to do with the economy). Did no one read that they were fired for using the company to the favor and advancement of their own family? Guess not, the economy and the times had the blinds drawn. If I were to lose my job, whether to "the times" or to my own stupid ass (like these people), I'd do whatever it took to SAVE my family, not kill them. I'd be at McD's, Burger King, and Taco Bell.....all at the same time. The cowardly road is to put yourself in a box.
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thank-YOU!!!!!!! :clap thats exactly what im talking about
 
pdbrady;2709955; said:
"Sign of the times"......"Sign of the times"......GET THE F OVER IT! There is no "times" to blame here. There is no economic responsibility. There is no sick, twisted, sadistic employer to blame. The guy murdered his entire family............MURDERED. I'm sure the thousands of murderers locked up nation wide would love to have such a simple excuse as "the times". I was disgusted to read this. It's terrible, tragic, and inexcusable. But to be totally honest, it infuriates me that much more to hear everybody crying about the economy, and blaming every down moment of society on it. There are so many more good things going on, hopeful inclines and attempts, yet everyone seems to only see they dark (even though it never seems to have anything to do with the economy). Did no one read that they were fired for using the company to the favor and advancement of their own family? Guess not, the economy and the times had the blinds drawn. If I were to lose my job, whether to "the times" or to my own stupid ass (like these people), I'd do whatever it took to SAVE my family, not kill them. I'd be at McD's, Burger King, and Taco Bell.....all at the same time. The cowardly road is to put yourself in a box.
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Agreed!!
 
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