Marble motoro's.Interesting observation don't you think?
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Unfortunately there really isnt any way to get "collection data" unless some1 actually goes to Columbia and fishes them out and data-logs there findings. Scientists data-log there findings yes, but when they catch this "type" of marble they probably figure its just another marble being caught ya know...?
Thats what I thought, but I had to ask any way. Sorry about being off topic here.
It's even more intresting KNOWING that "mini" Marbles aren't a myth.
Richard I've done some research in terms of when my suspected minis were obtained and I'm ready to let the cat out of the bag.... You just tell me if you want that info/pics posted here in your thread OR if I should just start a new one to keep it less confusing.
Richard I've done some research in terms of when my suspected minis were obtained and I'm ready to let the cat out of the bag.... You just tell me if you want that info/pics posted here in your thread OR if I should just start a new one to keep it less confusing.
Hi Al.
If your findings are relative to this discussion then please please incorporate them on this thread inc any pics you have,that would be fantastic,were all in this together.Not so long ago i was ridiculed on a forum here in the Uk by a member on here when i had noticed that the "Red Retic" (Red Caqueta) had significant differences to the normal Reticulata and in my opinion was a completely different species,this has since been proven,unfortunately this particular species has turned out to be very difficult to feed and raise under captive conditions, indeed most of the specimens imported have since perished ,this is a great shame due to its small size.
So back to the subject,lets all see what you have found out Alan.
If your findings are relative to this discussion then please please incorporate them on this thread inc any pics you have,that would be fantastic,were all in this together.Not so long ago i was ridiculed on a forum here in the Uk by a member on here when i had noticed that the "Red Retic" (Red Caqueta) had significant differences to the normal Reticulata and in my opinion was a completely different species,this has since been proven,unfortunately this particular species has turned out to be very difficult to feed and raise under captive conditions, indeed most of the specimens imported have since perished ,this is a great shame due to its small size.
So back to the subject,lets all see what you have found out Alan.
Many of you have seen the pics of my "juvies". Truth be told they have been "juvies" for years.
My very first surviving pup came from a regular sized mother at around 18". The father however had been at the 10" mark the entire time I had him. The guy I got him from had him for years as well, in those years he had not seemed to grow either. I was even told he was small but it didn't matter cause what he lacked in size he made up for in aggression. The pup he fathered will be 2 years old next month. She is 7 inches across.
The CB pup I raised before my rays produced was roughly this size at 1 year and was around a foot at year 2. I have a male Marble pup here from my biggest female. His father was skightly bigger (around a foot) ray and this pup is almost the same size as the female, despite being almost 9 months younger, raised with the female on the same diet as well.
The dark male I have that looks like a Pearl showed up here at 7". 2 years later he is now 9" and the female he's been after is showing signs of movement. I also aquired a female prior to this male that arrived at 6 inches. It's been going on 2.5 years here. She has grown from 6 to 9 inches.
My most recently aquired female came in showing movement at 8.5 inches. She gave birth to what appeared to be a very fat and healthy lil 3.25" pup which I later ended up losing for unknown reasons.
All in all I believe to be in possesion of 5 Marbles that posess these "mini" Marble growthrates of about 1" a year on females, less on males.
I don't believe that diet could be cause for this as I've been raising "normal" Marbles side by side with the lil buggers. Have to constantly switch tankmates around because of the different growth rates.
All in all the smaller ones seem to me to be a bit more aggressive, often bullying, and biting rays that are much bigger, and is not limited to male female biting but rather the lil CB female biting any ray in her area. She is on her way to having to be housed with my big rays simply cause she has chewed up most of her tankmates, strangely only the larger ones, she's never touched the smaller CB lil male she's been raised with.
Will get pics up for you guys tonight. Kinda funny seeing them next to the much larger "normal" Marbles.
To me these growthrates seem a little slow to be considered "slow growers".
My very first surviving pup came from a regular sized mother at around 18". The father however had been at the 10" mark the entire time I had him. The guy I got him from had him for years as well, in those years he had not seemed to grow either. I was even told he was small but it didn't matter cause what he lacked in size he made up for in aggression. The pup he fathered will be 2 years old next month. She is 7 inches across.
The CB pup I raised before my rays produced was roughly this size at 1 year and was around a foot at year 2. I have a male Marble pup here from my biggest female. His father was skightly bigger (around a foot) ray and this pup is almost the same size as the female, despite being almost 9 months younger, raised with the female on the same diet as well.
The dark male I have that looks like a Pearl showed up here at 7". 2 years later he is now 9" and the female he's been after is showing signs of movement. I also aquired a female prior to this male that arrived at 6 inches. It's been going on 2.5 years here. She has grown from 6 to 9 inches.
My most recently aquired female came in showing movement at 8.5 inches. She gave birth to what appeared to be a very fat and healthy lil 3.25" pup which I later ended up losing for unknown reasons.
All in all I believe to be in possesion of 5 Marbles that posess these "mini" Marble growthrates of about 1" a year on females, less on males.
I don't believe that diet could be cause for this as I've been raising "normal" Marbles side by side with the lil buggers. Have to constantly switch tankmates around because of the different growth rates.
All in all the smaller ones seem to me to be a bit more aggressive, often bullying, and biting rays that are much bigger, and is not limited to male female biting but rather the lil CB female biting any ray in her area. She is on her way to having to be housed with my big rays simply cause she has chewed up most of her tankmates, strangely only the larger ones, she's never touched the smaller CB lil male she's been raised with.
Will get pics up for you guys tonight. Kinda funny seeing them next to the much larger "normal" Marbles.
To me these growthrates seem a little slow to be considered "slow growers".
