Marbled Motoro Color
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Where's the confusion? This thread started out w/ the majority having the view that substrate is the main cause for coloration in MM. I say it is a factor but genetics plays the most part. You can not make a low grade marble a high grade w/ light colored substrate, what you now have is a washed out look NOT a grade A marble because you were able to lighten up a dark marble.
In arowana's, experienced keepers do not accept a white tank treated arowana the same as a high shine and will not pay high shine price so why would'nt the same rules apply to MM's?
Why wouldn't rays try to blend with the enviroment? Dark tanks like black sand that absorbs the light are going to impact the ray differently then say blue bottom/backed with white sand that's going to reflect light.
I don't care how nice the Marble is or good it's genetics are, messing with the light and substrate will affect it.
Sure genetics may play a part, but regardless of genetics, you can alter the way they look.
I don't care how nice the Marble is or good it's genetics are, messing with the light and substrate will affect it.
Sure genetics may play a part, but regardless of genetics, you can alter the way they look.
Here's some better pics because I get a feeling that my pictures are being viewed as altered. Honestly, fish pics suck w/ the iphone....
Female
Male
I must also add that the coloration refferences in this thread are wrong. Reg motoro's have a base color, MM have marbling hence the name. The lack of marbling = the refference to a "base" color. To lighten up the lack of marbling or "base" color does not increase the value of said fish.
Female
Male
I must also add that the coloration refferences in this thread are wrong. Reg motoro's have a base color, MM have marbling hence the name. The lack of marbling = the refference to a "base" color. To lighten up the lack of marbling or "base" color does not increase the value of said fish.
Where is the confusion? The confusion is in the fact you start out saying that you are going to be the one person on here that says substrate has no effect on coloration. Then a few posts later change your mind. That is why I am confused.
Who went wee wee in your Cheerios? Nobody in here is even talking about grading or washed out anything. Secondly my rays turned light are wild caught which in every wild caught one I have seen come in look about the same. Muddy looking. How many have you seen? How many have you had come in looking that way. Kind of sad when you have someone saying your pictures look altered. I actually didn't lighten anything up. All I did was use their habitat to BRING OUT COLOR.
As for arowana's...I thought we were discussing stingrays?
Enough rambling I will wait till tomorrow for a response.
This thread is taking a weird turn lol.
How did the "value" of a fish all of a sudden get brought into the debate of whether marbles look better in dark or light substrate tanks?
Im definitely on board with lighter substrates bringing out marbles patterns better. My black bottom and walled plywood tank washed out the colors of my marbles noticeably before a lighter color sand was added.
Maybe its just the pic, but the tank bottom the marbles in the above picture does not appear to be all black.
I say close the thread. My goal was achieved. What more needs to be said. People are just bringing up all kinds of other "factors".
Ill believe what I saw with my own eyes and posted pics of. Also I have enough members on here agreeing with me to believe my own "experiment".
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Ill believe what I saw with my own eyes and posted pics of. Also I have enough members on here agreeing with me to believe my own "experiment".
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I've tried lots of different lights, sand colors, and back ground colors with many Marbles for many years.
If you want to bring out the color paint the back, bottom, could even do sides... blue. Light substrate, add a halide, and the rest is just ray keeping.....
she seems to be improving. have you altered anything other than the substrate ? ie the lighting or food ?
