Marbles and Pearls part (2) which do you prefer?

[morello]

so whats the deal with pearl being "Potamotrygon sp. pearl"

its been around for a while now why no proper name?

they are very alike maybe marbles came from reg motoro x pearl

 

[aquaman45]

so whats the deal with pearl being "Potamotrygon sp. pearl"

its been around for a while now why no proper name?

they are very alike maybe marbles came from reg motoro x pearl

Very good point,they do have similar traits,however my Marbles were from Venesuela many years ago and most as we all know come out of Colombia so the crossing of Pearls from Brasil with these marbles isnt possible.However theres some striking representatives in Brasil of Motoro so you have to say its possible.Too many people identify fish by colour only,i personally study shapes more closely....for example a Otorongo(Castexi) has a completely different disc shape to a motoro as does a Tiger Ray(P.menchacai)andFlower Ray(P.schoederi),the last two for me should be classed in a new genus.....i see striking resemblances with these two....its all about attention to detail.So back to the Pears\Motoros,as anyone noticed the the spines(denticles)that almost reach the middle of a Pearl Rays back when it reaches adulthood,i love this single row of spines that resemble large hooks,this is something ive never seen in a Motoro,ive seen random fairly large denticles appear but nothing like with the Pearls.....something to look for next time you see a large Pearl Ray.

 

[aquaman45]

so whats the deal with pearl being "Potamotrygon sp. pearl"

its been around for a while now why no proper name?

they are very alike maybe marbles came from reg motoro x pearl

Sorry Morello,ive just noticed you put reg motoro x Pearl to make a Marble,still theres no Marbles Rays coming out of Brasil so its not possible i dont think.

 

[morello]

thanks for the informative answer

i not that well up on where each particular species is found yet, maybe you give a quick basic guide?

my only close up with a pearl ray has been at neils shop and that was only a pup :/

ill be passing wigan today might nip in for a peek

 

[aquaman45]

thanks for the informative answer

i not that well up on where each particular species is found yet, maybe you give a quick basic guide?

my only close up with a pearl ray has been at neils shop and that was only a pup :/

ill be passing wigan today might nip in for a peek

Its not very evident on pups if at all,you need to see the adults,maybe Neil will take a close up of the tail and back of one of his Pearls so we can all see what im refering too.

 

[Bogwoodbruce]

Very good point,they do have similar traits,however my Marbles were from Venesuela many years ago and most as we all know come out of Colombia so the crossing of Pearls from Brasil with these marbles isnt possible.However theres some striking representatives in Brasil of Motoro so you have to say its possible.Too many people identify fish by colour only,i personally study shapes more closely....for example a Otorongo(Castexi) has a completely different disc shape to a motoro as does a Tiger Ray(P.menchacai)andFlower Ray(P.schoederi),the last two for me should be classed in a new genus.....i see striking resemblances with these two....its all about attention to detail.So back to the Pears\Motoros,as anyone noticed the the spines(denticles)that almost reach the middle of a Pearl Rays back when it reaches adulthood,i love this single row of spines that resemble large hooks,this is something ive never seen in a Motoro,ive seen random fairly large denticles appear but nothing like with the Pearls.....something to look for next time you see a large Pearl Ray.

I love reading stuff like this, i always learn somthing new

 

[aquaman45]

Heres a picture(close up) of the large spines i mentioned bare in mind this ray is only subadult,the spines will develop more in time,plus a picture taken today of Lil Bill.....couldnt resist posting this one!

 

[aquaman45]

Heres the close up of the spines.

 

[raymondk]

that marble any else a pearl

 

[Bogwoodbruce]

Heres a picture(close up) of the large spines i mentioned bare in mind this ray is only subadult,the spines will develop more in time,plus a picture taken today of Lil Bill.....couldnt resist posting this one!

That ray is to die for Id love to see your fishroom some day