mean cichlid

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Completely agree with you GTS! Not quite shy, as mine still do fight in my 230, but they definitely aren't hyper aggressive like they would be in small tanks. I am thinking this is PROBABLY true with Doviis as well, but we would have to get one of the indoor pond keepers to confirm this one. I did forget to add Butts in there as well, and have seen them behave the same in a 330 gallon as they do in a 50 gallon.

I guess the point I was TRYING to make (I admit, not very clear) is that the answer to the question 'what is the most aggressive cichlid' really depends on how you keep it. I have seen hyper-aggessive RDs and Midas in 33 gallons and 50 gallons, where they come out at the glass displaying at you, then proceeding to bite the glass, but I have never seen a Dovii in a 50 gallon showing THAT much aggression. However, as GTS pointed out, the Midas would be much more pacified in a 265, but the Dovii seems to act the same.

I experienced the two most 'aggressive' fish about 15 years ago:

1) Pair of convicts. Male would slam himself HARD against the glass, and if you rested your hand on the lid, he would actually jump out smacking the lid in an effort to bite you. Not the greatest example since they were about to breed, but for pure aggression, I think the example stands.

2) Bought 2 Pseudotropheus (Matriclima) 'Zebra' sp. On the drive home, they were fighting in the bag. How many cichlids will actually fight in a bag if you are holding the bag?

If we are talking about what fish can will kill what fish, well, in a 300 gallon, I don't think there are any single fish (excluding breeding pairs of anything) that can really stand up to a Male Dovii or Butt.

In a 50 gallon, I do believe that a Red Devil would probably beat on the Dovii (or at least act way more aggressive than the Dovii would). I haven't kept Dovii's for a very long time though (hopefully the guy at the LFS will sell me his display pair he has at the moment), so perhaps I am forgetting how nasty they are.
 
i was gunna say convicts
mean ****ing fish

i see a 8"er meannnn
 
My 14" male dovii is just as aggresive towards other fish whether in his usual 180 or in my 265 gallon. He is an all out ******* no matter what sized tank it is. As far as a dovii losing in 50 gallon to a midas I dont agree. The midas would certainly be more likely to stand up to it but in the end would be beaten by the dovii.

On the other hand I can drop my 13" male midas in the 265 and he is very calm and does not bother the other fish unless they start something. On the other hand my dovii we still be an ass hole attacking fish in there own territory as he would in a smaller tank. Also dont confusing a tank banging , gill flaring fish with an aggresive one. I have a green terror who will attack me when I walk by attack finger and even biting me if I put my hand in the tank. But in a fight he is a puss. Just because a dovii doesnt attack you does not mean they wont attack another fish.
 
Rui said:
If we are talking about what fish can will kill what fish, well, in a 300 gallon, I don't think there are any single fish (excluding breeding pairs of anything) that can really stand up to a Male Dovii or Butt.
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a fellow by the name of Rod (Dovieye) had a ~15" butti in a 500g with a 20" dovii and some other parachromis. One day the dovii started slaughting the other fish, and the first to go was the butti. Obviously there's a major size difference, but nonetheless...

He posted up pics, and I linked them here, but I'm too lazy to find the link right now :P Has a partially descaled butti floating face-down in the background with a dovii menacing the camera in the foreground :D
 
piranha45 said:
a fellow by the name of Rod (Dovieye) had a ~15" butti in a 500g with a 20" dovii and some other parachromis. One day the dovii started slaughting the other fish, and the first to go was the butti. Obviously there's a major size difference, but nonetheless...

He posted up pics, and I linked them here, but I'm too lazy to find the link right now :P Has a partially descaled butti floating face-down in the background with a dovii menacing the camera in the foreground :D

I remember that picture.
 
which cichlid would you say is the meanest to people. My dovii is quite docile to me but my pikes are nasty to hands and fingers
 
midas devils trimacs flowerhorns, any of those kept in isolation will turn into hand-destroying brutes
 
Im not that well versed in s/a chiclids but can you really compare those and central american chiclids? Anyway I go red devil.
 
Ounce for ounce, pound for pound, I'd have to go with the Convict. They may not be huge. They may not be exotic or rare. And, they may not be the flashiest, toothiest, most impressive of cichlids. But they have the attitude of an axe murderer on a bad day.
 
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